Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Mustafaster » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:54 am

Yeboah wrote:

I don't see it as desperate and for a club who appointed the Hock not all that long ago I can't fathom how it could possibly be labelled a disaster.


for a club that isn't solvent YOY without major cash injection and only turnover £34m, spunking a load of money on an almost sure fire failure is or will be a disaster.

I assume the plan is to use his 'charisma' (and the fact he's won fuck all this CENTURY) To attract loan players from top teams.

ie invest in one man only.

like I said ...shambles

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Bloody rubbish!
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Vampire » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:18 am

Mustafaster wrote:
Yeboah wrote:

I don't see it as desperate and for a club who appointed the Hock not all that long ago I can't fathom how it could possibly be labelled a disaster.


for a club that isn't solvent YOY without major cash injection and only turnover £34m, spunking a load of money on an almost sure fire failure is or will be a disaster.

I assume the plan is to use his 'charisma' (and the fact he's won fuck all this CENTURY) To attract loan players from top teams.

ie invest in one man only.

like I said ...shambles

:mrgreen:
Gotta love Yeboah. Proper miserable, grumpy fuckin Yorkshire Bastard.
Most exciting thing to happen in about 20 years...
Bloody rubbish!


I don’t fully share his pessimism - but I kind a see some of his points. Will Biesla get the quality of player needed in the championship to execute a fairly ambitious style of football? A style that opponents will anticipate and know how to counter. He may have inspired successful coaches such as Guardiola, but they’ve refined the bits that work for them rather than taken the full package - in that sense things have moved on. Has he?

But all that said I still think overall it’s positive and exciting - though Ranieri would have been better and Almeyda probably the smarter choice.
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby the flying pig » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:50 am

if we don't get in the players, the only thing that adding a new coach will achieve is the opportunity for us lot to engage in fatuous discussions about formations & whatnot.

i propose that in doing this we try, as far as possible, to use a fair bit of linguistic wankery in addition to pseudo-scientific tactical gibberish. a key part of this could be the names we use for positions. here's a couple of suggestions:

3-3-3-1

keeper, preferably a false number one in the mould of bielsa's star pupil claudio bravo. felix was born to play this role.
the back three: 1 x sweeper; 2 x stopper [this one needs work] either side;
midfield three: 1 x holding player plus 2 x what i will insist on calling lateral-volantes either side of him;
three attacking players: 1 x enganche [this is very important], 2 x inside forwards
1 x big man up front.

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Mustafaster » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:58 am

the flying pig wrote:if we don't get in the players, the only thing that adding a new coach will achieve is the opportunity for us lot to engage in fatuous discussions about formations & whatnot.

i propose that in doing this we try, as far as possible, to use a fair bit of linguistic wankery in addition to pseudo-scientific tactical gibberish. a key part of this could be the names we use for positions. here's a couple of suggestions:

3-3-3-1

keeper, preferably a false number one in the mould of bielsa's star pupil claudio bravo. felix was born to play this role.
the back three: 1 x sweeper; 2 x stopper [this one needs work] either side;
midfield three: 1 x holding player plus 2 x what i will insist on calling lateral-volantes either side of him;
three attacking players: 1 x enganche [this is very important], 2 x inside forwards
1 x big man up front.

False#1. :salute:
Back 3: a Libero and two Bastardos.
Mid 3: a Pivot and two Basculeros
Attacking mid: Enganche and two aleros.
Big Man Up Front.
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby the flying pig » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:07 am

yeah, all about the enganche, innit. roofey's experience there probably goes a long way to explaining his by all accounts skyrocketing market value :thumbl:

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby dirty leeds » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:21 am

False No. 1 :lol:

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby jackos » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:43 am

Another guy who knows what's going on, this one does look a bit more realistic to be fair


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Not true Bielsa has work permit as that will come when/if he signs contract that is now in his brother's hands, a top level lawyer in communication with Leeds. Club very hopeful of things moving positively but no timetable to when confirmation (or the opposite) will take place,Having said that, I personally cannot wait for it to happen, so #LUFC

What it is true is that he is consulted on the transfer movements of the club which, whatever eventually happens, is a great way to tease him! #LUFC

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:49 pm

Just joining the applause for Felix's new role :salute:
You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Arnieb » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:16 pm

Big Man Up Front

Is surely how all formations should end

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby the flying pig » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:16 pm

Re false one - much as I'd like to take credit, I'm sure that a similar term was moderately widely applied to bravo in his citeh days by various wags on fleet street & social media.

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby the flying pig » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:23 pm

Arnieb wrote:Big Man Up Front

Is surely how all formations should end


Yeah... A new Charles/Jones/Jordan/Pearson/Chapman/Viduka certainly wouldn't go amiss right now.

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Proud to be Leeds » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:56 pm

Are we not getting Fernando Torres when Bielsa rolls into town?
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:04 pm

Proud to be Leeds wrote:Are we not getting Fernando Torres when Bielsa rolls into town?

I saw that rumour... Let's see! First things first...
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Yeboah » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:06 pm

Mustafaster wrote:
Yeboah wrote:

I don't see it as desperate and for a club who appointed the Hock not all that long ago I can't fathom how it could possibly be labelled a disaster.


for a club that isn't solvent YOY without major cash injection and only turnover £34m, spunking a load of money on an almost sure fire failure is or will be a disaster.

I assume the plan is to use his 'charisma' (and the fact he's won fuck all this CENTURY) To attract loan players from top teams.

ie invest in one man only.

like I said ...shambles

:mrgreen:
Gotta love Yeboah. Proper miserable, grumpy fuckin Yorkshire Bastard.
Most exciting thing to happen in about 20 years...
Bloody rubbish!



What's exciting about appointing a mildly successful (but not recently) pensioner on a shit load of cash?

What's in his past record (38% win rate at club level) that would give you even a shred of belief that he could even come close to succeeding in this league/country?

He was sacked last time with a 26% win rate...a busted flush.

do we never learn?

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby welshwhite » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:37 pm

Bielsa out!

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby dirty leeds » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:59 pm

Yeboah wrote:What's exciting about appointing a mildly successful (but not recently) pensioner on a shit load of cash?


Look, I've told you once, you fucker.

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Yeboah » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:35 pm

dirty leeds wrote:
Yeboah wrote:What's exciting about appointing a mildly successful (but not recently) pensioner on a shit load of cash?


Look, I've told you once, you fucker.

:cheers: :lol:

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Arnieb » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:03 pm

Hay says biesla has said yes to the Leeds

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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby MightyWhite » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:12 pm

Ditto Popey. Also says Bielsa due in Leeds end of next week.

Here we go boys and girls :drunk:
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Re: Is Heckingbottom's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Yeboah » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:27 pm

We are completely and utterly fucked....for a few more seasons


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