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Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:45 pm
by Phil LUFC
sunshine whites wrote:Derby now top 6
Rotherham Beat Millskum away.
Pottys & Swans - premiership squads
Hardly poor teams we have beaten so far- Still only August not getting carried away
El Loco to get the cursed manager of the month award?

League table after 5 games last season Vs now:


Last year we'd beaten Forest who were top 6 but ultimately proved to be shit and Sunderland who we thought were having a slow start, much like Stoke now. The table will change lot over the next 10 games before we really start to have a clue who (else) is good/who isn't.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:52 pm
by dirty leeds
Decided to go to Millwall. Realised that since the match is after my next birthday I'll get the Old Cunts' Discount [as it is officially known], so it will save me a tenner on that £32 top price. £22 to see us win at The Den has to be worth it.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:25 pm
by Mr Reality
jackos wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:I wasn't as impressed as I have been with bielsa's team I think he's a far superior coach but he's also helped massively having a left footed left back. Although it goes far deeper than this the squad has been thinned down so there isnt much dead wood blocking the way and he seems far more inclined to use the 23s to plug holes rather than having a journeyman blocking the path to the first team.

But most importantly in my opinion we now look far more balanced which is something that far too many underestimate. There is a lot to be said for square pegs in square holes. Still look a little short in terms of quality in certain areas but we knew this was the case.

But as you say let's see where things are 15 games.


The thing that impresses me most is our movement off the ball, there's away's options when a player is looking for a pass, and we're not bunching up like a lot of teams do. Orta has do something right assembling a squad that is capable of playing that type/level of football.


Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:52 pm
by LSD&2Es
Mr Reality wrote:
Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.


Alioski too? Or was he pre-orta (which sounds like a heart condition)?

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:57 pm
by Mr Reality
LSD&2Es wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:
Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.


Alioski too? Or was he pre-orta (which sounds like a heart condition)?


My bad that's 4.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:25 pm
by jackos
Mr Reality wrote:Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.


Its not just about recruitment of players though, it's about building an organisation, a squad and a management team capable of competing. Orta is Director of Football, not chief scout. They have admitted they made mistakes last year, recruiting for the future rather than building a team, wrong manager, etc. Being a success is about learning from mistakes, you can't avoid making them.

Course the jury is still out. Things might go to shit from Friday. But our performance against Norwich was a lesson in how to play football, it's the best I can remember seeing us play for a long time, whatever else happens this season we will still have seen games like that.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:48 pm
by welshwhite
Mr Reality wrote:
LSD&2Es wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:
Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.


Alioski too? Or was he pre-orta (which sounds like a heart condition)?


My bad that's 4.


Of the side that finished the game you also missed these Orta players

Jansson
Baker
Bamford
Harrison

I'm a numbers man and make it eight.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:51 pm
by Mr Reality
jackos wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:Of the current first 11 he has brought in Klich, Saiz and Douglas.

I would hold fire praising the recruitment for a while yet.


Its not just about recruitment of players though, it's about building an organisation, a squad and a management team capable of competing. Orta is Director of Football, not chief scout. They have admitted they made mistakes last year, recruiting for the future rather than building a team, wrong manager, etc. Being a success is about learning from mistakes, you can't avoid making them.

Course the jury is still out. Things might go to shit from Friday. But our performance against Norwich was a lesson in how to play football, it's the best I can remember seeing us play for a long time, whatever else happens this season we will still have seen games like that.


The mistakes from the first summer were avoidable.

If you are talking about the whole organisation then you have to question Orta's ability.

A big fuss was made last summer about a scouting structure was put in place to bring in untapped talent from around the world. That was ignored this summer recruitment relied on bielsa's reputation.

Was the structure put in place for the benefit of Leeds united or some shitty loan system trying to mimic chelsea that has been a waste so far.

Recruitment last summer well the least said the better and the silly contracts have proved extremely costly.

I will give he and radz credit for finally bringing in somebody with a degree of football knowledge so they can take a back seat. Although i don't think bielsa will stand for many more outbursts in the press.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:55 pm
by Mr Reality
welshwhite wrote:
Of the side that finished the game you also missed these Orta players

Jansson
Baker
Bamford
Harrison

I'm a numbers man and make it eight.


Pontus agreed a permanent deal before Orta's arrived.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:03 pm
by welshwhite
Mr Reality wrote:
welshwhite wrote:
Of the side that finished the game you also missed these Orta players

Jansson
Baker
Bamford
Harrison

I'm a numbers man and make it eight.


Pontus agreed a permanent deal before Orta's arrived.


You're right, he signed a couple of months before Orta arrived. You must be happy with the clubs new policy of no more scattergun signings?

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:06 pm
by JohnGiles
welshwhite wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:
welshwhite wrote:
Of the side that finished the game you also missed these Orta players

Jansson
Baker
Bamford
Harrison

I'm a numbers man and make it eight.


Pontus agreed a permanent deal before Orta's arrived.


You're right, he signed a couple of months before Orta arrived. You must be happy with the clubs new policy of no more scattergun signings?


:salute:

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:22 pm
by Mr Reality
Not a massive fan of loan signings but I guess it is a case of needs must after so much money has been wasted.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:51 pm
by jackos
Loans are how the championship gets by these days, as demonstrated by Wolves last year and just about every other promoted club in the past three years. Ridiculous transfer fees, FFP and EPL cash make it virtually impossible for Championship clubs to compete without a few first class loans.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:38 pm
by Terre Harte
Quiffy wrote:It is so bad that it inspired me into thinking I couldn't do much worse.....to the tune of dancing queen...

He is an Argenteen,
Litter free loon, only 63, (oh yeah),
He can crouch, he can shout,
And suddenly Leeds are not shite
Mar-celo bi-elsa,
he is the boss supreme


Bravely going forth with this even though I know I’m going to regret it. To the tune of “Victoria” by The Kinks:

Stamford Bridge to Villa
Middlesbrough to Millwall
Liverpool to the scum
From the West to the East
From the rich to the poor
Bielsa thrashed them all
Bi-el-sa!
Bi-el-sa!
Bielsa! Bielsa!

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:53 pm
by dirty leeds
Ah, see, that's all well and good lads, but may I remind you the reason they landed on Bad Moon Rising was because the Argie fans borrowed it for one of their ditties. So he'll recognise the tune. The youtube vid of the event is surprisingly effective when they get going:


Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:05 pm
by Mr Reality
Wolves are a special case but I don't think any other team has brought in more loan signings than permanent.

If you can bring in a mitrovic then fair dos(i can't think of any other as influential in a recent season). Hopefully Harrison/baker/Blackman can have that impact.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:47 pm
by Mustafaster
dirty leeds wrote:Ah, see, that's all well and good lads, but may I remind you the reason they landed on Bad Moon Rising was because the Argie fans borrowed it for one of their ditties. So he'll recognise the tune. The youtube vid of the event is surprisingly effective when they get going:


Really needs the lad dressed as the Pope to make it work.

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:46 am
by kennyb41
Is Tyler Roberts currently injured?

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:11 pm
by LSD&2Es
kennyb41 wrote:Is Tyler Roberts currently injured?


No, moved down to the U23 squad as not deemed ready for #bielsaball ......yet

Re: Six (fingers) in a row - Norwich CK

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:31 pm
by sunshine whites
LSD&2Es wrote:
kennyb41 wrote:Is Tyler Roberts currently injured?


No, moved down to the U23 squad as not deemed ready for #bielsaball ......yet


nope
NOT in U23 squids last nite & played last cup game
Roberts, if fit, will play v PNE