YES that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football IS good enough for Leeds United

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Oheddieeddie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:31 am

I can get on board with this. No idea if it will work, but at least we're trying something

I'm further encouraged at the likely success of the project by Yeboah rejecting the idea

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Vampire » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:19 am

I guess the one thing you can say about the likely outcome here is that it is unpredictable - which you'd be a mug not to welcome after more than ten years going nowhere. What have we got to lose?

I have my doubts that the full on purist 3-3-1-3 we saw from Chile ten years ago can work given the quality of our players against hardened championship opponents in a football world that is always tactically evolving. But that is where the unpredictability comes in. Will he have the money and magnetic draw for new players? How will he motivate and inspire the current ones? Will he finesse his purist style for one better suited to our players and league (I read somewhere he did adapt the playing style slightly at Bilbao)?

So, we just don't know how this will turn out - which makes it exciting and a far more attractive prospect than predictable mid table mediocrity. This has to be the right time to take a risk.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby AndyPaul » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:18 am

eric olthwaite wrote:
Quiffy wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?


Just imagine that.

He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.


Probably thought he needed to stop such as horrific crime from happening again.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby jackos » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:49 am

Encouraging to see the reaction his appointment has received across Latin Europe/America, lots a veey big names in football want Bielsa to succeed. Hopefully that will translate into some very exciting transfers and loans this summer.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Phil LUFC » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:55 am

eric olthwaite wrote:
Quiffy wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?


Just imagine that.

He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.

If it's true his team watched every game in the division, they also saw Luke Murphy play.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby metalsmurf » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:50 am

Phil LUFC wrote:
eric olthwaite wrote:
Quiffy wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?


Just imagine that.

He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.

If it's true his team watched every game in the division, they also saw Luke Murphy play.

Got to gaive him a chance after that, I wouldn't watch all our games from last season again :puker:
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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby sunshine whites » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:57 am

metalsmurf wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?
Just imagine that.
He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.
If it's true his team watched every game in the division, they also saw Luke Murphy play.
Got to gaive him a chance after that, I wouldn't watch all our games from last season again :puker:


First half of the season was encouraging.
El Loco sounds like a gut who will no have reservations telling Otto where he fkd up with player deals and which players need shifting out


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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Clacton white » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:20 am

AndyPaul wrote:
eric olthwaite wrote:
Quiffy wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?


Just imagine that.

He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.


Probably thought he needed to stop such as horrific crime from happening again.

When did OFK play football - must have missed that bit . If he can turn (Bielsa ) OFK into even an average footballer , he's a bloody miracle worker . My money is on he won't bother and get rid .
Anyway , whatever , interesting times ahead .... Bielsa's strategy is all out attack apparently .

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Mustafaster » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:55 am

No, his "style" isn't all-out attack.
It's about pressing all over the field, especially in the opposition half.
It's about making life as difficult as possible for the opposition.
The Idea is that if you have two teams of comparable ability, then the one that works harder will probably win.
It's about how you make that hard work as effective as possible. It's no good just running around a lot, the work has to be focused.
Guardola used the "five seconds' variant for example.
If you lose the ball the men nearest press the ball like hell for five seconds.
If they don't win it back they revert to their normal defensive position.
Bielsa's Bilbao were more zonal than Guardiolas Barca, the pressing was done zonally, probably because he didn't have the quality of players that Barca had.
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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Mr Reality » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:05 am

jackos wrote:Encouraging to see the reaction his appointment has received across Latin Europe/America, lots a veey big names in football want Bielsa to succeed. Hopefully that will translate into some very exciting transfers and loans this summer.


Loved the tweet from Batigol.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Mr Reality » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:17 am

sunshine whites wrote:
metalsmurf wrote:he's watched every minute of football from last season?
Just imagine that.
He’s actually watched Eunan O’Kane play football and he still decided to come. Remarkable.
If it's true his team watched every game in the division, they also saw Luke Murphy play.
Got to gaive him a chance after that, I wouldn't watch all our games from last season again :puker:


First half of the season was encouraging.
El Loco sounds like a gut who will no have reservations telling Otto where he fkd up with player deals and which players need shifting out


Aye he won't stand for any rubbish. He will pack his bags.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:28 am

Mr Reality wrote:
jackos wrote:Encouraging to see the reaction his appointment has received across Latin Europe/America, lots a veey big names in football want Bielsa to succeed. Hopefully that will translate into some very exciting transfers and loans this summer.


Loved the tweet from Batigol.

If only there was some way to share it on here.

Oh well, never mind.
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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Quiffy » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:49 am

carlos corberan, the bloke who's done well with the u-23's is spanish, surely he'd be a good man to have around for bielsa, but i haven't heard anything mentioned apart from a list of other names to form his back room staff.
increasing doubt, decreasing hope, even my imaginary friend went and changed his mind.


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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:01 pm

:thumbl:
You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby jackos » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:45 pm

Blackwhite wrote::thumbl:


Do you want us to translate if for you as well - lazy bastard :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:47 pm

jackos wrote:
Blackwhite wrote::thumbl:


Do you want us to translate if for you as well - lazy bastard :cheers: :cheers:

Too kind.




Well? :lol:
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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby dirty leeds » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:38 pm

It says: "I agree with Yeboah: he's a fucking dithering O.A.P. who's never won nowt. The Heck should have been given more time."

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Re: Is that Mad Bastard Bielsa's brand of football good enough for Leeds United

Postby Blackwhite » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:02 pm

dirty leeds wrote:It says: "I agree with Yeboah: he's a fucking dithering O.A.P. who's never won nowt. The Heck should have been given more time."

:thumbl:

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