the flying pig wrote:
Phil LUFC wrote:...The underlying root cause is pretty simple really: This way of playing is visually stunning and when its executed as it can be it's unplayable BUT it's simply too complex to be consistently executed to that level, by any team. City, Spain and Barca have all had periods where they've struggled to make it work (and I accept tactical differences between these teams, and us, but the general principles are the same).
well - no playing style can make a team invulnerable, the best [or worst] it can do is help a team punch above [or below] its weight in terms of playing resource. i'm fairly sure that our style does that, as did spain's [has any other european national side ever come close to three consecutive tournament wins?]. it's hard to judge the 'weight' of citeh or barca due to the ludicrous playing resources available to them, but they both seem to have done pretty well with this playing style? of pep's three clubs, bayern are the one where i'd argue that he did nothing, since their PPG slumped a little after he took over. citeh are doing alright this season, have been unfortunate to come up against liverpool in exceptional form, with consistent world class output at GK, CB, RB/LB, and across the front three.
Perhaps I didn't phrase it very well but agree its an over-simplification. So allow me to double down on that...
If we were to consider football playing styles to be considered as linear progression we might have percentage football towards one end, tiki-taka towards the other, varying degrees obviously, the absolute extremes being "put it in the mixer" and "keep possession for the sake of it rather than with intent to do anything useful". The same scale IMO broadly lines up with difficulty (it's a piece of piss for a footballer to punt it aimlessly long, not so easy to make such a tactic effective though. I suppose its equally easy to pass a ball 5 yards unmarked but we're kind of talking 1 long punt vs about 5 short passes so there's more chance of error in the 5 passes).
As with any such linear scale, the real success has some sort of balanced position or ability to mix it up.
I see this Liverpool side as being fucking good at what they do but I don't see anything pushing the boundaries of how the game is played - they're playing with the sort of intensity and style we saw from DOL's side 20 years ago.
I see a typical Warnock side as being able to shit house their way to some reasonable achievements through playing the percentages with a set of 7/10 physical units doing the basics well week in week out.
I see us, Guardiola sides, Spain a decade ago.... putting forward an alternate way to play, something which changes the wider perception of how the game should be played. It's no longer fresh, combating it is now possible and there's not just 1 solution to achieve it. I see this style as more likely to result in self inflicted problems than a Warnock approach. City have self inflicted wounds which have taken them out of the title race, we beat ourselves last season and are threatening to this - for both us, a change in direction would be suicide, the squads are built and drilled for this approach.