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Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:41 am
by Mr Reality
Ponte wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:Positive move by the club.

Well done to all involved.


Has Yeboah piped up yet that it's proof we are skint and Bielsa is a fraud?



To be fair I think bar a few teams in the country everybody will be skint at the moment.

But this isn't about somebody being skint it's about working together the club has built a family feel and community spirit over the last few years and this was a chance to show that it really matters in a time of crisis and the club have stepped up.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:43 am
by Ponte
Mr Reality wrote:
Ponte wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:Positive move by the club.

Well done to all involved.


Has Yeboah piped up yet that it's proof we are skint and Bielsa is a fraud?



To be fair I think bar a few teams in the country everybody will be skint at the moment.

But this isn't about somebody being skint it's about working together the club has built a family feel and community spirit over the last few years and this was a chance to show that it really matters in a time of crisis and the club have stepped up.

100% and you just know the players are more than happy to help. There's a good vibe around the club these days.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:59 am
by jackos
Latest accounts have been posted on the Companies House portal

Operating loss £36M
The loss for the financial year of the parent company was £22,291,787 (2018: £4,929,797).
Wage bill including costs £46M
Directors (Kinnear?) 300K


Promotion bonuses look reasonable.

Under the terms of the financial provisions relating to transfer of player registrations, future payments of up to £5,281 ,610
(2018: €7,099,091) may be payable dependent on the club's promotion to the FA Premier League and/or players
appearances for the club. Promotion to the FA Premier League may also incur bonuses payable of £19,925,320 (2018.
£18,129,519) conditional on the performance of both players and football management throughout the 2019/20 season.


Will be interesting to read what the pro's think

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:52 am
by jackos
Good thread



SIX PERCENT above base rate? Wish I could get terms like that for my savings :)

"Rent free"


Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:36 am
by Yeboah
So, are we skint?

Yes, operating loss even worse than I thought.

Explains some of the transfers out.

Is Bielsa a fraud? .....to be decided.

Great thread on Popeys twitter replying to his comments on the accounts.

General horror and ‘promotion or bust’ being the key themes.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:14 am
by Mindo
Championship clubs lose money and rely on shareholder support, c'est la vie and will continue unless the whole system of football finances changes, wages massively reduced etc. Hard to compete without making big losses as things stand. Many other clubs much worse off.

TV income of less than £1.5m for the year....

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:07 pm
by Mr Reality
@Mike_J_Thornton

Provides a brief summary on twitter.


Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:36 pm
by Yeboah
Mr Reality wrote:@Mike_J_Thornton

Provides a brief summary on twitter.



Basically says, it’s all awful and concerning but that it’s inline with expectations :lol:

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:38 pm
by Ponte
I see Yebore has arrived, as expected. Can folk please refrain from quoting him? I have no desire to read his bollocks.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:47 pm
by Yeboah
Ponte wrote:I see Yebore has arrived, as expected. Can folk please refrain from quoting him? I have no desire to read his bollocks.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just came for an apology from all the doubters, and anyone whoever uttered the phrase ‘well run club’

The lack of one, as with many other things on here.....isn’t a surprise.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:16 pm
by Phil LUFC
Yeboah wrote:
Ponte wrote:I see Yebore has arrived, as expected. Can folk please refrain from quoting him? I have no desire to read his bollocks.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just came for an apology from all the doubters, and anyone whoever uttered the phrase ‘well run club’

The lack of one, as with many other things on here.....isn’t a surprise.

Not really, it's what it takes to be competitive in this insane division. It's more or less in line with what everyone expected and isn't going to see us in trouble over P&S limits (pre COVID19 impact at least).

Ponte wrote:I see Yebore has arrived, as expected. Can folk please refrain from quoting him? I have no desire to read his bollocks.

Sorry.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm
by welshwhite
Yeboah wrote:
Just came for an apology from all the doubters, and anyone whoever uttered the phrase ‘well run club’

The lack of one, as with many other things on here.....isn’t a surprise.



It takes a big man to stand up and say they got things wrong, Yebs.

I hope you accept my heartfelt Apologies.

Sorry mate :thumbl:

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:27 pm
by jackos
Yeboah wrote:Basically says, it’s all awful and concerning but that it’s inline with expectations :lol:


Who's expectations are you talking about? Yours? The Clubs? Mike's? You have been preaching a FFP breach for the past <fuck knows how long>, Mike writes that it is not an issue. Or are you ignoring his summary about FFP?


Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:34 pm
by dirty leeds
Yeboah wrote:Is Bielsa a fraud? .....to be decided.


Apologies, Ponte, but as much as I don't give a flying fuck about what Yebore thinks about anything at all, he ain't getting away with this one.

'To be decided'? :lol:
Well, not by you.

You already declared.
When you repeatedly called him a fraud.
When you told him to 'fuck off'.
When you told us we'd never be promoted with him in charge.
When you said he wasn't worth the money.
When you wrote #bielsaout at H-T during Millwall match.

You already made your mind up.

[Not to mention that there was no alternative to voiding the season.]

No wriggle-room for you. :lol:

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:54 pm
by Professor Weeto
We could lose all nine of our remaining games and it still wouldn’t out Bielsa as a ‘fraud’. He’s proved he is no fraud already, by any reasonable definition.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:54 pm
by Yeboah
welshwhite wrote:
Yeboah wrote:
Just came for an apology from all the doubters, and anyone whoever uttered the phrase ‘well run club’

The lack of one, as with many other things on here.....isn’t a surprise.



It takes a big man to stand up and say they got things wrong, Yebs.

I hope you accept my heartfelt Apologies.

Sorry mate :thumbl:


Cheers Welsh, you sarcastic fucker.... :cheers:

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:59 pm
by Mr Reality
dirty leeds wrote:
Yeboah wrote:Is Bielsa a fraud? .....to be decided.


Apologies, Ponte, but as much as I don't give a flying fuck about what Yebore thinks about anything at all, he ain't getting away with this one.

'To be decided'? :lol:
Well, not by you.

You already declared.
When you repeatedly called him a fraud.
When you told him to 'fuck off'.
When you told us we'd never be promoted with him in charge.
When you said he wasn't worth the money.
When you wrote #bielsaout at H-T during Millwall match.

You already made your mind up.

[Not to mention that there was no alternative to voiding the season.]

No wriggle-room for you. :lol:


Seriously don't waste your energy.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:06 pm
by Mr Reality


Context of the other teams in the league.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:16 pm
by Yeboah
jackos wrote:
Yeboah wrote:Basically says, it’s all awful and concerning but that it’s inline with expectations :lol:


Who's expectations are you talking about? Yours? The Clubs? Mike's? You have been preaching a FFP breach for the past <fuck knows how long>, Mike writes that it is not an issue. Or are you ignoring his summary about FFP?



I’m talking about Mike’s expectations As he tweeted it and you’ve then posted the evidence....so, :scratch:

FFP has fuck all to do with the financial health of the club, it’s a condition of the league in which we play. My point about money was that we had none, these accounts prove that.

When people were calling for January investment I said we couldn’t do it as we didn’t have the money.

That’s it....

The direction of travel for the club financially has to be concerning for anybody involved surely, it’s literally promotion or bust.

To stay inside FFP for the next set of accounts we will need to have lost ‘only’ £14m. An overall £7m improvement or an even bigger improvement on OpEx/EBIT. Even if we did that we’d then need to make a profit the year after that.

And that’s only if the largesse and generosity of the owner continues.

Re: Is Radrizanni's "brand" of football good enough for Leeds United?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:21 pm
by jackos
Yeboah wrote:I’m talking about Mike’s expectations As he tweeted it and you’ve then posted the evidence....so, :scratch:


OK

Yeboah wrote:FFP has fuck all to do with the financial health of the club, it’s a condition of the league in which we play. My point about money was that we had none, these accounts prove that.


OK