The state of UK politics

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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:53 pm

Was that guy in the back of Emily Thornberry's interview now shouting "FUCK BREXIT"? :lol:
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby eric olthwaite » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:04 pm

1922 Committee meeting at 5.30 to discuss a no confidence vote. . .
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Quiffy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:13 pm

so there will be a challenge to may's leadership, but is the hard brexit faction of the tory's large enough to topple the soft brexiters? if not then their challenge will lose and we'll be stuck with may who will gain authority from finally defeating this faction. it's like squeezing a massive spot that's taken 18 months to ripen.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:25 pm

eric olthwaite wrote:1922 Committee meeting at 5.30 to discuss a no confidence vote. . .

Sounds like they have enough, and also sounds like she thinks she will win it.

That would be a first, of course.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby jackos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:37 pm

Blackwhite wrote:Sounds like they have enough, and also sounds like she thinks she will win it.

That would be a first, of course.


Watching the news its starting to sound like common sense might prevail, there's no time for an election or leadship contest, so Tory MPs will back May and Boris will continue to do what he's done for the past two years. sit on the sidelines making noise without making and constructive suggestions.

Sounds like more and more exiters support the idea of referendum on the final agreement.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby sunshine whites » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:30 pm

Trump next week

London Mayor Sadiq Khan has given permission for the helium-filled six-metre (19.7ft) high balloon depicting Donald Trump as a baby over West Minister London during the US president's visit.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44737293

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/giant-sad ... ver-london
if FREE SPEECH applies to all and whether or not Mr Khan and the London assembly will also approve a 'simirlar baby Khan' one

"Under Sadiq Khan, we have seen crime sky rocket to unprecedented levels. People in London don't feel safe and they aren't safe, 81 murders this year alone! Khan Out."

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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby eric olthwaite » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:48 pm

Funny how Sadiq Khan seems to trigger some people. Must be something about him. Can’t imagine what.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby jackos » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:32 pm

Guy from Northampton who lives in Barcelona says "Londoners don't think Khan's doing a good job". Can't even think of an original idea. Impressive to raise 50K when all he has is an mspaint image of Khan clipped onto a photo of the Houses of Parliament. The power of Fox News I guess. Wish Id thought of it.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:44 pm

Ha ha

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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Vampire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:26 pm

Still, as you survey the wreckage of your calamitous Government, it must be reassuring to know you have waiting in the wings such a well led Opposition, benefitting from the chaos to surge towards.....neck and neck in the polls.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Mustafaster » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:05 am

Jeremy Hunt for Foreign Secretary.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Vampire » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:04 am

Mustafaster wrote:Jeremy Hunt for Foreign Secretary.
It just keeps getting better.


Well, as Health Secretary he did claim an extra £20 Billion for the NHS from the “Brexit dividend.” So, now he’s got a job more relevant to the generating that dividend. Good luck with that.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Vampire » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:38 am

Predictably, the pound has fallen on the latest turmoil - not least because of fears of a leadership election and continuing chaos. I think, however, these events are relatively good for the UK economy.

Whilst there certainly is uncertainty, recent events suggest to me that the chances of a hard Brexit are receding fast. Economic reality, and political reality from the EU negotiation process, finally seems to have dawned on the majority in the UK Cabinet. Economic and political gravity is pulling them closer and closer to a softer Brexit - a pulling force that should now face less wind resistance without Johnson and Davis blowing back. A softer Brexit should herald better news for your economy - at least relative to the nightmare of a hard Brexit.

Even in the unlikely event that Johnson challenges and wins, he doesn’t have the numbers to get a hard Brexit through the Commons. His own Party is divided and the Opposition is unlikely to support his version of a hard Brexit. Indeed, to get a hard Brexit through Parliament from here he’d need the benefit of a totally incompetent Opposition.......errr wait a minute.....
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby jackos » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:51 am

Starting to see EU reaction to the proposal, predictably it’s that there is no way the proposal will work, the internal market is not a pick and mix, if you want access to the single market you have to sign up to the four pillars. If May thinks the EU will agree to free movement of goods but not capital, services and labour she is kidding herself, but I don’t believe that even she thinks they will. All we’re hearing is that it’s a start, but we should have been at this point two years ago.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:07 pm

Pardon the source, but it's amusing and they had the easiest link... Do click for the four images :mrgreen:

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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:27 pm

Anyway, two more down, Caulfield and that fucktard Bradley, the one who looks like he's work experience ex trolley collector.


They'll be sorely missed, no doubt. Brains the size of planets.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby eric olthwaite » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:47 pm

Caulfield is my MP. She has less character than a skip full of bin juice.
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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:48 pm

The New York Times excoriates BoJo the Clown.

LONDON — For the second time in three years, Boris Johnson, a politician whose ambition and superficial charm far outstrip his ability, judgment or principles, is destabilizing the British government and threatening the country’s future.

On Monday, Mr. Johnson, in protest against Prime Minister Theresa May’s plans for Brexit, resigned from his post as foreign secretary. Now Mrs. May’s authority, longevity and ability to deliver a Brexit without causing an economic crisis are in question. But further political paralysis seems certain.

Britain is in this mess principally because the Brexiteers — led largely by Mr. Johnson — sold the country a series of lies in the lead up to the June 2016 referendum on leaving the European Union. They did so because neither Mr. Johnson nor his fellow leader of the Leave campaign, Michael Gove, intended, wanted or expected to win.

At the start of 2016, Mr. Johnson was perhaps the most popular politician in Britain. Supporters and fans mobbed him at train stations and traffic lights; pollsters and pundits thought he could reach the parts of the country that other Conservatives could never touch. But he was also driven and insecure, so desperate to guarantee he would be the next prime minister that he cynically abandoned his own previous positions on the European Union in order to try to secure support from his party’s Euroskeptic right wing.


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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby Blackwhite » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:02 am

You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.

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Re: The state of UK politics

Postby eric olthwaite » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am

Priti Patel, a minister of Her Majesty’s government on Twitter:

This is no longer an argument about whether Brexit was a good idea but is about democracy & standing by the democratic decision made by the people. The public want to know that their political leaders will stay true to the promise made to them that Brexit means Brexit.


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