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Re: Ex White watch

Postby jackos » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:05 pm

the flying pig wrote: i think for Eddie to make a good living out of football his best chances to do this might be one or more of:.


Eddie has a couple of years left on a 35K a week contract at Ashburton Grove, that's over 3.5M quid, or more than I will earn in my lifetime despite me earning pretty decent money (imo). He has a sponsorship deal with Adidas and, I would imagine, will fairly easily get a >10K a week contract with a championship club if Arsenal decide to cash in irrespective how his career develops between now and 2022.

He is already guaranteed a good living, like many modern day prospects who find themselves with a EPL contact at a very young age he's already guaranteed a decent living irrespective of how his career goes. I wonder how many wonder kids there are playing non league football these days after their career disappeared down the loo after a promising start in the youth set up at a EPL club?

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Quiffy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:39 pm

jackos wrote:
the flying pig wrote: i think for Eddie to make a good living out of football his best chances to do this might be one or more of:.


Eddie has a couple of years left on a 35K a week contract at Ashburton Grove, that's over 3.5M quid, or more than I will earn in my lifetime despite me earning pretty decent money (imo). He has a sponsorship deal with Adidas and, I would imagine, will fairly easily get a >10K a week contract with a championship club if Arsenal decide to cash in irrespective how his career develops between now and 2022.

He is already guaranteed a good living, like many modern day prospects who find themselves with a EPL contact at a very young age he's already guaranteed a decent living irrespective of how his career goes. I wonder how many wonder kids there are playing non league football these days after their career disappeared down the loo after a promising start in the youth set up at a EPL club?

you're setting a low course of trajectory there jackos. eddie's usp is his finishing, i have been bored enough to watch him beyond leeds and he always seems calm in front of goal which is something you don't see much of in any league. the problem, as others have pointed out, is that current formations don't seem suited to this type of player, the big exception to the rule being man city playing aguero. that maybe a fanciful comparison at this stage of his career but i can see a team like brighton or palace accomodating him, if the arse don't. a more sensible comparison may be with dwight gayle, who never got much of a chance at palace in spite of his impressive scoring record as they thought they needed a more all round player. is he a luxury player in modern football?

whatever happens it's going to be fascinating to see what happens to the rest of his career.
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Re: Ex White watch

Postby the flying pig » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:41 pm

jackos wrote:
the flying pig wrote: i think for Eddie to make a good living out of football his best chances to do this might be one or more of:.


Eddie has a couple of years left on a 35K a week contract at Ashburton Grove, that's over 3.5M quid, or more than I will earn in my lifetime despite me earning pretty decent money (imo). He has a sponsorship deal with Adidas and, I would imagine, will fairly easily get a >10K a week contract with a championship club if Arsenal decide to cash in irrespective how his career develops between now and 2022.

He is already guaranteed a good living, like many modern day prospects who find themselves with a EPL contact at a very young age he's already guaranteed a decent living irrespective of how his career goes. I wonder how many wonder kids there are playing non league football these days after their career disappeared down the loo after a promising start in the youth set up at a EPL club?


oh, yeah, he's finanically made for life. i really meant somethign like 'have a good career that involves playing a decent number of appearances at a decent level'.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Phil LUFC » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:30 pm

the flying pig wrote:
Tommy wrote:I suspect Bamford and Nketiah playing together in a two would do very well. They cover for each other's deficiencies.


yeah, but it's the old thing about 4-4-2 & variants thereof, leaves you light in other parts of the pitch. i think for Eddie to make a good living out of football his best chances to do this might be one or more of:

(a) drop a very long way below PL big six standard, maybe even to league one level;
(b) reinvent himself a bit as a guy who can play at least tolerably well with his back to goal etc, in the way that late career jermaine defoe did; and/or
(c) reinvent himself as a guy who can play at least tolerably well as a wide player in a 4-3-3.

I don't agree with this, saw the 2nd half of the Arsenal game the other day and he looked just fine in the middle of the front 3. His job was pretty much just to make space in the box, for himself or others, he played in indirect but important role in at least 2 of the goals. He might do better in a 442 but he's definitely capable of playing on the middle of a 3. Just needs to be a proper 3 and not a 1.

For us he was expected to do more than that but in a team with truly excellent wide players he doesn't need to do more than look to play off the shoulder or lay it off to someone else. Half a season with Bielsa will have definitely improved him and they're paying in a way which will get more out of him.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Bobbycollins » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:34 pm

I thought his attitude was good - he was always on the move and chased back when required, which was a major contrast to Lewis Baker who specialised in standing and pointing.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Oheddieeddie » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:58 pm

I’d watched as much of him as you could, Arsenal (under Wenger) being my Premier league team of choice these last 15 years.

The best of Eddie is very very good, and Arteta is no mug. He said this of dropping Lacazette for Eddie.

Today I decided to play Eddie because he's been training in a phenomenal way. I decided for him not to go on loan and to stay and I have to support that decision.


The other thing to remember is that Nketiah has really only played a handful of games all told so you’d assume he will improve massively with more minutes as he has the attributes

I dont see him as a traditional target man, but more like a Thiery Henry type which would be pretty good

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby welshwhite » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:01 pm

I lost interest in him the day he left.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Bobbycollins » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:07 pm

welshwhite wrote:I lost interest in him the day he left.


That's just typical of you and your steadfast views :thumbl:

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby kennyb41 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:10 pm

Tommy wrote:I suspect Bamford and Nketiah playing together in a two would do very well. They cover for each other's deficiencies.

Suspect again.
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Re: Ex White watch

Postby kennyb41 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:14 pm

Bobbycollins wrote:
Tommy wrote:I suspect Bamford and Nketiah playing together in a two would do very well. They cover for each other's deficiencies.


Trouble was that when we played the two together, we lost control of midfield, which reduced the opportunities for the front two whilst putting more pressure on the defence. With (a lot) of luck, once JKA is match fit he might combine some of the attributes of Bamford and Nketiah - at least he seems to know where the goal is situated.


Exactly this ^

Jeez let's just play the kids why don't we. Edmonson Clarke and ? up front if certain folk wre in charge of the team.

Thorpe park straight to their heads me thinks, watch more i say, watch more.
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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Phil LUFC » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:04 pm

welshwhite wrote:I lost interest in him the day he left.

I very much wanted this to be the case but oddly I now feel invested in his career in the same way I do Jack Clarke's and have an interest in the achievements of Cook, Mowatt, Taylor, Cairns, Wills, Delph, Milner.... Etc. It's a little different for the players who've worked under Bielsa, I'm keen to see if there's things they've kept with them after moving on. I suppose this is about second guessing whether Liam Cooper will still be good after Bielsa moves on.

Hell, I'm still mildly interested to know what Diagouraga is up to these days.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby dirty leeds » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:46 pm

Phil LUFC wrote:
welshwhite wrote:I lost interest in him the day he left.

I very much wanted this to be the case but oddly I now feel invested in his career in the same way I do Jack Clarke's and have an interest in the achievements of Cook, Mowatt, Taylor, Cairns, Wills, Delph, Milner.... Etc. It's a little different for the players who've worked under Bielsa, I'm keen to see if there's things they've kept with them after moving on. I suppose this is about second guessing whether Liam Cooper will still be good after Bielsa moves on.

Hell, I'm still mildly interested to know what Diagouraga is up to these days.


Eddie did a good bit of tracking back to win the ball the other night. Just the once, mind. But it felt like he'd learned something.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Blackwhite » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:16 pm

Eddie's scored for the Arse. You may remember him, sat in a tracksuit.
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Re: Ex White watch

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Ex White watch

Postby Tommy » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:20 pm

I like Eddie, he scored some important goals for us, did us a favour by not going to Bristol City again and even provided a character reference for Kiko’s hearing. Aside from if/when he plays against us I wish him well.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby dirty leeds » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:46 am

Tommy wrote:I like Eddie, he scored some important goals for us, did us a favour by not going to Bristol City again and even provided a character reference for Kiko’s hearing. Aside from if/when he plays against us I wish him well.



'Ere T, you're in Italia, right? Caught the virus yet? It's exploding all over Northern Italy right now.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby eric olthwaite » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:36 pm

dirty leeds wrote:
Tommy wrote:I like Eddie, he scored some important goals for us, did us a favour by not going to Bristol City again and even provided a character reference for Kiko’s hearing. Aside from if/when he plays against us I wish him well.


'Ere T, you're in Italia, right? Caught the virus yet? It's exploding all over Northern Italy right now.


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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Blackwhite » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:27 pm

If you could lick the toilets in the Ebola block too before your flight, that'd be aces.
You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.

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Ex White watch

Postby Tommy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:59 am

Yeah I have to confess that I’ve been having a good old think on the way home tonight. It seems as though it is mainly an issue for elderly people and that’s obviously a huge chunk of the government and civil service. Milan was indeed very strange today. I figured I might as well enjoy the novelty of the city being all but empty because if I’ve got it, I’ve got it and there’s no reason to be concerned beyond the obvious. At this point in time I’m fairly fit and healthy so I reckon my odds would be decent. It sounds daft but I’m at Luton airport now and wondering if I should go home or not. Whilst I’m in relatively fine fettle, I also live with a talented young writer/director who recently received a fair bit of acclaim for their first feature film and I do sometimes worry that they aren’t necessarily looking after themselves as much as they could do. If it’s based on the respiratory system they have a particular fondness for herbal recreation that presumably has some impact on the overall health of say, the lungs. I do actually feel a touch under the weather as it stands but that’s probably to be expected after a few days holiday. It would surely be an overabundance of caution to go and check oneself into a hospital right now on the basis of feeling a bit unwell but is it better to feel embarrassed about what is more likely to be bog standard hypochondria than it is to potentially infect other people of more consequence than I?

I guess tune in tomorrow to find out? If this does prove to be the end, I just want you all to know that I already have a brick in Bremner Square and I really, really hate all of your wives.

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Re: Ex White watch

Postby Wakefield White » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:09 am

Tommy wrote:Yeah I have to confess that I’ve been having a good old think on the way home tonight. It seems as though it is mainly an issue for elderly people and that’s obviously a huge chunk of the government and civil service. Milan was indeed very strange today. I figured I might as well enjoy the novelty of the city being all but empty because if I’ve got it, I’ve got it and there’s no reason to be concerned beyond the obvious. At this point in time I’m fairly fit and healthy so I reckon my odds would be decent. It sounds daft but I’m at Luton airport now and wondering if I should go home or not. Whilst I’m in relatively fine fettle, I also live with a talented young writer/director who recently received a fair bit of acclaim for their first feature film and I do sometimes worry that they aren’t necessarily looking after themselves as much as they could do. If it’s based on the respiratory system they have a particular fondness for herbal recreation that presumably has some impact on the overall health of say, the lungs. I do actually feel a touch under the weather as it stands but that’s probably to be expected after a few days holiday. It would surely be an overabundance of caution to go and check oneself into a hospital right now on the basis of feeling a bit unwell but is it better to feel embarrassed about what is more likely to be bog standard hypochondria than it is to potentially infect other people of more consequence than I?

I guess tune in tomorrow to find out? If this does prove to be the end, I just want you all to know that I already have a brick in Bremner Square and I really, really hate all of your wives.


Unusually upbeat for you that Tommy, d’ya get laid on holiday or sommat?
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