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Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:02 pm
by Ontolly
Cracking goal by Milner just now :shock:

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:24 pm
by the flying pig
i fancy liverpool in the final, tbh. madrid are good but by no means great. liverpool's transfer deals this yr have been once-in-a-generation stuff. they paid about the same to bring in van dijk, & salah [ok, and oxlade-chamberlain, but he's done alright] as they did to ship out coutinho & sakho [to palace]. for pretty much zero net spend they've marginally strengthened their attack at the same time as immeasurably strengthening their defence.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:30 pm
by Mr Reality
Madrid have won 3 of the last 4 years. If they aren't great what is ?

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 7:55 pm
by the flying pig
Mr Reality wrote:Madrid have won 3 of the last 4 years. If they aren't great what is ?


Sure but they're now arguably further from the 2014 vintage than (say) the 1975 Leeds side was from its 1971 incarnation. So many of their best, formerly world class, players have turned 30 since then, ronaldo, ramos, modric, benzema, bale not quite but with injuries & whatnot he's not half the player... Isco has emerged but that's not enough to compensate for the above loss.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:35 pm
by eric olthwaite
the flying pig wrote:i fancy liverpool in the final, tbh. madrid are good but by no means great. liverpool's transfer deals this yr have been once-in-a-generation stuff. they paid about the same to bring in van dijk, & salah [ok, and oxlade-chamberlain, but he's done alright] as they did to ship out coutinho & sakho [to palace]. for pretty much zero net spend they've marginally strengthened their attack at the same time as immeasurably strengthening their defence.


Aye. RM not exactly pulling up trees lately.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:33 pm
by Mr Reality
the flying pig wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:Madrid have won 3 of the last 4 years. If they aren't great what is ?


Sure but they're now arguably further from the 2014 vintage than (say) the 1975 Leeds side was from its 1971 incarnation. So many of their best, formerly world class, players have turned 30 since then, ronaldo, ramos, modric, benzema, bale not quite but with injuries & whatnot he's not half the player... Isco has emerged but that's not enough to compensate for the above loss.


They have adapted over the last few years to manage their aging players . The shift of formation has also worked well. It should actually be an interesting game will be interesting to see how Liverpool approach it.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 11:01 pm
by the flying pig
Mr Reality wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:Madrid have won 3 of the last 4 years. If they aren't great what is ?


Sure but they're now arguably further from the 2014 vintage than (say) the 1975 Leeds side was from its 1971 incarnation. So many of their best, formerly world class, players have turned 30 since then, ronaldo, ramos, modric, benzema, bale not quite but with injuries & whatnot he's not half the player... Isco has emerged but that's not enough to compensate for the above loss.


They have adapted over the last few years to manage their aging players . The shift of formation has also worked well. It should actually be an interesting game will be interesting to see how Liverpool approach it.


They're still good, plainly, but not to be feared as such, e.g. weaker than man citeh almost certainly. In their domestic league they're set to finish third in a two horse race. You could argue that they've been focusing on Europe but ahead of them are Athletico who have played even more (admittedly less demanding on average) European games, with less favorable scheduling, in mostly shittier locations.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:48 am
by Mr Reality
the flying pig wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
Sure but they're now arguably further from the 2014 vintage than (say) the 1975 Leeds side was from its 1971 incarnation. So many of their best, formerly world class, players have turned 30 since then, ronaldo, ramos, modric, benzema, bale not quite but with injuries & whatnot he's not half the player... Isco has emerged but that's not enough to compensate for the above loss.


They have adapted over the last few years to manage their aging players . The shift of formation has also worked well. It should actually be an interesting game will be interesting to see how Liverpool approach it.


They're still good, plainly, but not to be feared as such, e.g. weaker than man citeh almost certainly. In their domestic league they're set to finish third in a two horse race. You could argue that they've been focusing on Europe but ahead of them are Athletico who have played even more (admittedly less demanding on average) European games, with less favorable scheduling, in mostly shittier locations.


There isn't a team called athletico.

It's also disrespectful to describe is at as a two horse race given the success of atletico Madrid in recent seasons.

I don't think klopp is the type to fear any team but I'm not sure how we can say they are weaker than man city. What metrics are we using they haven't played each other and don't play in the same league.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:14 am
by Andymac-47
quote="Mr Reality"


"There isn't a team called athletico".

The above sentence sums you up lovely.

Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:44 am
by Tommy
I suspect there’s going to be a period of RM dominance on a domestic level for a while because they seem to have prepared for the gradual drop off of their ageing stars marginally better than Barcelona. Presumably Neymar is going in that direction sooner or later and if they manage to prevent Salah from becoming the Messi stopgap by signing him too, it’ll be a double coup. I think that Asensio kid will prove to be a capable replacement for at least Bale, if not quite Dickhead.

At the same time, I reckon they will gradually become less dominant in Europe as their more experienced players fade.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:25 pm
by Mr Reality
Andymac-47 wrote:quote="Mr Reality"


"There isn't a team called athletico".

The above sentence sums you up lovely.



Aye nobody ever mentions spelling mistakes on here. As ever hypocrisy is king.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:19 pm
by Blackwhite
Mr Reality wrote:
Andymac-47 wrote:quote="Mr Reality"


"There isn't a team called athletico".

The above sentence sums you up lovely.



Aye nobody every mentions spelling mistakes on here. As ever hypocrisy is king.

Nobody 'ever' mentions, etc and so on.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 7:57 pm
by Andymac-47
Blackwhite wrote:
Mr Reality wrote:
Andymac-47 wrote:quote="Mr Reality"


"There isn't a team called athletico".

The above sentence sums you up lovely.



Aye nobody every mentions spelling mistakes on here. As ever hypocrisy is king.

Nobody 'ever' mentions, etc and so on.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, I think he got excited in his haste to try and put me in my place. Its as well he does not teach English.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:13 pm
by Ontolly
I have personally put a lot of hard work in trying to reconcile some of the outdated stereotypes that haunt this archaic forum. Some of the Ken Goodwin type posters need to be dragged into the 21st Century. I thought we were doing ok.

Then Mr R lets himself get owned by a Mick about something or other and we might as well give in to a soft brexit with Coca Cola sponsored borders. You cunts make me fucking sick :puker:

Fuck right off.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 6:56 am
by eric olthwaite
Ontolly wrote:Ken Goodwin type posters . .

Fuck right off.


Settle down now

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:35 pm
by Andymac-47
Ontolly wrote:I have personally put a lot of hard work in trying to reconcile some of the outdated stereotypes that haunt this archaic forum. Some of the Ken Goodwin type posters need to be dragged into the 21st Century. I thought we were doing ok.

Then Mr R lets himself get owned by a Mick about something or other and we might as well give in to a soft brexit with Coca Cola sponsored borders. You cunts make me fucking sick :puker:

Fuck right off.


You need a hug?

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm
by the flying pig
alex mccarthy seems to be finishing the season strongly at southampton. maybe finally establishing himself as a good top flight player, as he very much looked in his half dozen leeds games.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:13 pm
by Quiffy
redders has just won the league title for doncaster belles in his first season there, apparently first time in 24 years they've won it.

he's dropped a fair way down the ladder but you can't do better than that. i just hope it gets him a better paid job. another talented bloke who got wasted by the cellino machine.

https://twitter.com/carllygo/status/995740199505326081

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 9:33 pm
by jackos
Quiffy wrote:redders has just won the league title for doncaster belles in his first season there, apparently first time in 24 years they've won it.

he's dropped a fair way down the ladder but you can't do better than that. i just hope it gets him a better paid job. another talented bloke who got wasted by the cellino machine.


Women's second division title, different ladder sirely? Glad that he's found work, doubt we'll see him managing in the championship again but he should be able to find work coaching the youth in someone's academy.

Re: Ex White watch

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:00 am
by Phil LUFC
Quiffy wrote:redders has just won the league title for doncaster belles in his first season there, apparently first time in 24 years they've won it.

he's dropped a fair way down the ladder but you can't do better than that. i just hope it gets him a better paid job. another talented bloke who got wasted by the cellino machine.

https://twitter.com/carllygo/status/995740199505326081

I think it's a good match for him, slightly higher profile than an academy I'd have thought and aligns nicely with what his Mrs does. The women's game remains a long way behind but it's starting to look like it might have a decent future if it's handled correctly.