eric olthwaite wrote:Could go in other places but here will do. I read a piece on line saying that something like 92% of young women had been groped / molested / physically harassed in some way at gigs / clubs / festivals. I think the stat came from Sweden where an all female music festival had been set up; no male attendees or bands.
So I asked my girls about their experiences. What really depresses me is that they consider this stuff so commonplace as to be completely unremarkable. Both said that on occasion they'd violently attacked individuals groping them, which is clearly far from ideal, have had people thrown out of clubs and had relied on the presence of groups of male friends to step in. One of them said that she found the things that had happened to her on crowded Tubes far worse because you don't even have the context of people being pissed.
Fucking hell. Naive, stupid old me thought that post-feminism, a younger generation of men would have better values than those I was brought up with. It seems not. This shit makes me so angry. I get that the experience of 92% of women does not equate to 92% of men being a problem, but it must be a fuck of a lot.
Saw your tweets on exactly this yesterday, it's fucking shit.
Semi related (clearly not the same thing but a minor glimpse at the mentality).. for my best mates stag do a few years back I dressed him in a bright pink ABBA style jump suit, if he'd wanted to he could have had the most successful night out he'd ever had, it involved lots of lasses pinching his arse, all without permission, all very playful with no offence caused (I guess that's a big part of the issue, I imagine a lot of these young lads don't see any harm in it at all and presumably some lasses also consider it trivial or maybe even enjoyable?). For my stag earlier this year, he got his revenge by dressing me as a buxom blonde bavarian beer maid. My experience was very different, most of the attention was from pissed up lads taking the piss but it was all quite surreal and there was genuine anger from some when they were rejected from something they didn't actually want in the first place. My inflatable chest got repeatedly groped by members of both sexes. I fear I've over-shared here!