quick question re: TVs

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby eric olthwaite » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:26 pm

Cheers. Think I’m favouring Samsung now.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby jackos » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:34 am

I've always preferred Sony but these days I think the only real alternatives if you're looking for a TV are LG or Samsung. LG's OLED screens are supposedly miles ahead of Samsung's QLED, and it looks like they have all the apps you're looking for as well. Haven't used WebOS (LG) so I couldn't say how it compares to Tizen (Samsung), but everyone I know seems to be buying LG's for their picture quality. So make sure you compare the two.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Mustafaster » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:34 am

LG tellies are ace.
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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Phil LUFC » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:36 pm

Yeah, I favour LG too. That said, when I was last buying one 3D was the in thing and LG being same as the cinema rather than the active glasses Samsung were pushing typed the balance. I'll look at both when I'm next in need of an upgrade.

Don't get me started on sound, of advise an amp with proper speakers but then you're in the £800+ bracket (£400 amp, £150 subwoofer, £50 per speaker). Worth it IMO but appreciate its not going to suit everyone.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby OWETB » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:08 pm

Another thumbs up for LG here. I got one about 8, maybe even more years ago and it is still brilliant - it sort of looks a little dated design wise because of it's age but I have no intention of changing it, if it lasts another 20 years then that is how long I will keep it. I do actually have an history of this, I have a Technics old school stack which must be pushing 30 year old :D It is slightly redundant now as the processor cannot keep up with digital signals, so it might be going this year :(

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Quiffy » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:53 pm

Phil LUFC wrote:Don't get me started on sound, of advise an amp with proper speakers but then you're in the £800+ bracket (£400 amp, £150 subwoofer, £50 per speaker). Worth it IMO but appreciate its not going to suit everyone.


at the risk of getting you started, we got the sonos sound bar and two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

by the way, did anyone press the bbc red button to get the fa cup semi final in ultra hd? it was fantastic, especially if you sat about 20cm from the screen.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Tommy » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:48 pm

Quiffy wrote:two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

Was literally just pondering a couple of Sonos One speakers now they have been reduced to £169. Do you know if I can get a pair and use them in stereo for music? Is the audio as good as everyone suggests?

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby jackos » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:51 pm

Tommy wrote:
Quiffy wrote:two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

Was literally just pondering a couple of Sonos One speakers now they have been reduced to £169. Do you know if I can get a pair and use them in stereo for music? Is the audio as good as everyone suggests?


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https://support.sonos.com/s/article/1066?language=en_US

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Vampire » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:44 pm

Phil LUFC wrote:Yeah, I favour LG too. That said, when I was last buying one 3D was the in thing and LG being same as the cinema rather than the active glasses Samsung were pushing typed the balance. I'll look at both when I'm next in need of an upgrade.

Don't get me started on sound, of advise an amp with proper speakers but then you're in the £800+ bracket (£400 amp, £150 subwoofer, £50 per speaker). Worth it IMO but appreciate its not going to suit everyone.


I notice most of the big brand TVs don’t include 3D anymore - which will be a pain for those with 3D blu ray collections next time they upgrade.

I totally agree a good sound system is important. No point spending loads on a state of the art TV if you can’t get the sound to match. I think connections are also important with sound systems - plenty of HDMI ports and 4K HDR passthrough (HDCP 2.2) - if you’re going to connect 4K players/devices now or on the future.
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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Phil LUFC » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:52 am

Vampire wrote:
Phil LUFC wrote:Yeah, I favour LG too. That said, when I was last buying one 3D was the in thing and LG being same as the cinema rather than the active glasses Samsung were pushing typed the balance. I'll look at both when I'm next in need of an upgrade.

Don't get me started on sound, of advise an amp with proper speakers but then you're in the £800+ bracket (£400 amp, £150 subwoofer, £50 per speaker). Worth it IMO but appreciate its not going to suit everyone.


I notice most of the big brand TVs don’t include 3D anymore - which will be a pain for those with 3D blu ray collections next time they upgrade.

I totally agree a good sound system is important. No point spending loads on a state of the art TV if you can’t get the sound to match. I think connections are also important with sound systems - plenty of HDMI ports and 4K HDR passthrough (HDCP 2.2) - if you’re going to connect 4K players/devices now or on the future.

Indeed. I recently bought this because my previous amp died: https://www.richersounds.com/denon-avrx2500-blk.html

I'm eyeing up better speakers, Dali Zensor ones have been recommended but they'll have to wait.

My TV isn't ARC never mind 4k or smart, I'll cross the 3D bridge when it dies but until then it'll have to do.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Quiffy » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:36 am

Tommy wrote:
Quiffy wrote:two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

Was literally just pondering a couple of Sonos One speakers now they have been reduced to £169. Do you know if I can get a pair and use them in stereo for music? Is the audio as good as everyone suggests?

I'm a convert, they're incredibly functional, we started with one sonos1 in the kitchen mostly used as a radio and alarm, but then connected it to the music on my laptop and my amazon music account. Since then we got a sonos2 for the bedroom before the soundbar and two extra sonos1s for the big telly, theyre all easily controllable and dead easy to set up from the app, as jackos link suggests. You can get all the speakers in the house playing the same thing, which is great but was a problem when the kids downloaded the app and started pissing about. Oh how we laughed at their pranks.
As you crank up the volume the sound just gets stronger. I've never gone beyond 2/3 of the volume yet. For just listening to music our telly room set up (only sorted in February) got me blasting out my old favourite indie shite because you could pick out the instruments better than anything ive had before on my previous budget 4 speakers and separates set up. Sonos is proper 21st century.

forgot to add they connect up to amazon alexas, so you can just ask it to play what you want, a feature that is inbuilt for an extra few quid into the new sonos1.
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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby the flying pig » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:44 am

Tommy wrote:
Quiffy wrote:two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

Was literally just pondering a couple of Sonos One speakers now they have been reduced to £169. Do you know if I can get a pair and use them in stereo for music? Is the audio as good as everyone suggests?


the audio's nothing special at all in terms of the pantheon of home hi-fi eqiupment, but they're decent & very easy to use, it seems to me that the quality of the app/software has increased significantly since i first started with one i think 3 yrs ago.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby eric olthwaite » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:17 am

Thinking about it, the obsession with mega ultra HD is quite daft given that, personally, I tend to watch telly without me bins on.

It's one of those areas where technological progress is passing the point where it makes a useful contribution, like people using 4x4s to take their kids to school, or 30MP cameras to take photos they'll never blow up beyond 5x7.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Quiffy » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:24 am

the flying pig wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Quiffy wrote:two sonos1's for just over £800 and they're spot on.

Was literally just pondering a couple of Sonos One speakers now they have been reduced to £169. Do you know if I can get a pair and use them in stereo for music? Is the audio as good as everyone suggests?


the audio's nothing special at all in terms of the pantheon of home hi-fi eqiupment, but they're decent & very easy to use, it seems to me that the quality of the app/software has increased significantly since i first started with one i think 3 yrs ago.


my father in law, who's far more of an audiophile than me, simply because he has had more money to get nicer gear, is planning on selling his more expensive surround sound system to replace it with a sonos set up.
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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Vampire » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:17 am

eric olthwaite wrote:Thinking about it, the obsession with mega ultra HD is quite daft given that, personally, I tend to watch telly without me bins on.


The new technology has definitely improved TV experience for me - especially for movies and sport - though I think HDR has contributed more than 4K - probably because quality of pixels matters more than quantity.

The main problem is the lack of content to show off the improvements. Streaming quality is restricted by your broadband speed and satellite relies on upscaling rather than pure 4K. Then there’s the need to have all your attached equipment up to date on technology and protocols eg HDCP 2.2.

So, while 4K’s been around in TVs at least 5 years, most people with 4K TVs aren’t watching much content in genuine 4K. I’ve got a 4K/HDR disc player and that’s where I really notice the difference - and IMHO it’s worth it.

I wouldn’t touch the newly launched 8K for years as there’s virtually no 8K content to watch on it and you’ll need at least 50mbs to stream it. And as above quality of pixels matters more than quantity.
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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby eric olthwaite » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:37 am

My brother spent quite a bit on some big OLED thing recently, though I didn't notice the brand.

I can see that if you're watching a recent film with, I dunno, glorious sweeping landscapes or something then it's quite pretty. But his grandkids were watching cartoons and I found the almost savage brightness / bold colours etc so unpleasant that I had to leave the room for a bit. In the fantasy world of winning the lottery I suppose I'd have a pretty basic smallish TV for watching the news and stuff, then another proper cinema room for the full experience.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:41 am

And 3D 360 surround for the porn?

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby Ponte » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:12 pm

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Hmmm.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby eric olthwaite » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:29 pm



:thumbl:

Funnily enough Tommy sent me that exact thing this morning. I'm fairly sure we don't want owt that big - well I don't, but Mrs O may have other ideas. We're going to go to Currys and 'debate' the size issue tomorrow, and then she'll agree with me. A modest dimension is always preferable, obviously.

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Re: quick question re: TVs

Postby OWETB » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:42 pm

What size TV have you got at the minute eric? I went from a 32" to a 50" and within no time at all I was wondering how I ever coped with a 32" :lol:


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