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[Vampire]

And, as others have said, saying that you think anything because of your belief in some imaginary super-friend called God is such a cop-out. There's no proof of any god; there's no proof that Israel's religion is 'the one'. He's just appealing to the supernatural to justify his beliefs.

From what I know of Folau I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m sure there are folks who are homophobic and use religion to justify it. But there are also folks who are deeply religious and genuinely believe their religious teachings consider homosexuality to be a sin. I think Folau falls into the latter category - albeit it’s impossible to know for sure what’s in someone else’s head.

This is the menace of organised religion. But for me, as much as I disagree with parts of Folau’s religion and his views on homosexuality I still support his right to express those views and don’t see why he should be denied his trade as a result. For mine, free speech is fundamental.

I wouldn't choose to work with someone who uses his celebrity to shout loudly that he's homophobic....
I don't want to work with stupid, bigoted cunts, however talented they are at their chosen profession. The world has enough utter cunts in it without my selecting them for work colleagues.

Good for you DL but I seem to recall you recently commenting that your mag interviews homophobic reggae or rap artists? You haven’t walked off the job there? Perhaps you feel music “artists” are more entitled to free expression than rugby players?

[dirty leeds]

And, as others have said, saying that you think anything because of your belief in some imaginary super-friend called God is such a cop-out. There's no proof of any god; there's no proof that Israel's religion is 'the one'. He's just appealing to the supernatural to justify his beliefs.

From what I know of Folau I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m sure there are folks who are homophobic and use religion to justify it. But there are also folks who are deeply religious and genuinely believe their religious teachings consider homosexuality to be a sin. I think Folau falls into the latter category - albeit it’s impossible to know for sure what’s in someone else’s head.

This is the menace of organised religion. But for me, as much as I disagree with parts of Folau’s religion and his views on homosexuality I still support his right to express those views and don’t see why he should be denied his trade as a result. For mine, free speech is fundamental.

I wouldn't choose to work with someone who uses his celebrity to shout loudly that he's homophobic....
I don't want to work with stupid, bigoted cunts, however talented they are at their chosen profession. The world has enough utter cunts in it without my selecting them for work colleagues.

Good for you DL but I seem to recall you recently commenting that your mag interviews homophobic reggae or rap artists? You haven’t walked off the job there? Perhaps you feel music “artists” are more entitled to free expression than rugby players?

No, we chose to challenge them on it in the interviews. [I see you conveniently forgot that part.] I think pretty much all of them have backed off on the subject. It mostly concerned Jamaican reggae/dancehall artists but the hip-hop star Common actually apologised to our journalist for his lyrics and said he's been "a punk" for what he said.

I don't give a shit how "sincerely" he believes whatever old bollocks he believes about religion, he can fuck off. Religion is bullshit.

[Vampire]

And, as others have said, saying that you think anything because of your belief in some imaginary super-friend called God is such a cop-out. There's no proof of any god; there's no proof that Israel's religion is 'the one'. He's just appealing to the supernatural to justify his beliefs.

From what I know of Folau I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m sure there are folks who are homophobic and use religion to justify it. But there are also folks who are deeply religious and genuinely believe their religious teachings consider homosexuality to be a sin. I think Folau falls into the latter category - albeit it’s impossible to know for sure what’s in someone else’s head.

This is the menace of organised religion. But for me, as much as I disagree with parts of Folau’s religion and his views on homosexuality I still support his right to express those views and don’t see why he should be denied his trade as a result. For mine, free speech is fundamental.

I wouldn't choose to work with someone who uses his celebrity to shout loudly that he's homophobic....
I don't want to work with stupid, bigoted cunts, however talented they are at their chosen profession. The world has enough utter cunts in it without my selecting them for work colleagues.

Good for you DL but I seem to recall you recently commenting that your mag interviews homophobic reggae or rap artists? You haven’t walked off the job there? Perhaps you feel music “artists” are more entitled to free expression than rugby players?

No, we chose to challenge them on it in the interviews. [I see you conveniently forgot that part.] I think pretty much all of them have backed off on the subject. It mostly concerned Jamaican reggae/dancehall artists but the hip-hop star Common actually apologised to our journalist for his lyrics and said he's been "a punk" for what he said.

I don't give a shit how "sincerely" he believes whatever old bollocks he believes about religion, he can fuck off. Religion is bullshit.

Challenging them is fine. Free speech countering free speech. That’s different from censorship. Personally, I think it’s much better to confront the irrational with rational argument - rather than refusing to work with them as your previous post suggested (albeit you now confirm not what you did on the mag - and well done for that).

[Yeboah]

Religion is bullshit.

Typical TSB logic here

So, because YOU think it’s bullshit ....then it is.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Be interesting to know if someone like GT was genuinely offended by IF comments, or indeed if any gay person was. Maybe it was just other people getting offended on their behalf?

He’s a public figure and so cant expect to say what he did without ramifications. It’s interesting however that his right of freedom of expression due to religious belief is somehow held in worse regard than someone else’s sexuality. But that’s the world in 2019/20.

Irrespective of what he says now he will still THINK what he thinks. It’s a view probably shared with a great number of people , just that they don’t voice it.

Is hate ‘thought’ a crime?

[Yeboah]

And, as others have said, saying that you think anything because of your belief in some imaginary super-friend called God is such a cop-out. There's no proof of any god; there's no proof that Israel's religion is 'the one'. He's just appealing to the supernatural to justify his beliefs.

From what I know of Folau I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m sure there are folks who are homophobic and use religion to justify it. But there are also folks who are deeply religious and genuinely believe their religious teachings consider homosexuality to be a sin. I think Folau falls into the latter category - albeit it’s impossible to know for sure what’s in someone else’s head.

This is the menace of organised religion. But for me, as much as I disagree with parts of Folau’s religion and his views on homosexuality I still support his right to express those views and don’t see why he should be denied his trade as a result. For mine, free speech is fundamental.

I wouldn't choose to work with someone who uses his celebrity to shout loudly that he's homophobic....
I don't want to work with stupid, bigoted cunts, however talented they are at their chosen profession. The world has enough utter cunts in it without my selecting them for work colleagues.

Good for you DL but I seem to recall you recently commenting that your mag interviews homophobic reggae or rap artists? You haven’t walked off the job there? Perhaps you feel music “artists” are more entitled to free expression than rugby players?

100% agree

[Mustafaster]

Religion is bullshit.

Typical TSB logic here

So, because YOU think it’s bullshit ....then it is.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Be interesting to know if someone like GT was genuinely offended by IF comments, or indeed if any gay person was. Maybe it was just other people getting offended on their behalf?

He’s a public figure and so cant expect to say what he did without ramifications. It’s interesting however that his right of freedom of expression due to religious belief is somehow held in worse regard than someone else’s sexuality. But that’s the world in 2019/20.

Irrespective of what he says now he will still THINK what he thinks. It’s a view probably shared with a great number of people , just that they don’t voice it.

Is hate ‘thought’ a crime?

Are you a Christian?

[eric olthwaite]

Religion is bullshit.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Hey, look everyone! It’s another one of those cunts who’s too fucking stupid to understand the difference between the existence of god and the existence of religion.

[Yeboah]

Religion is bullshit.

Typical TSB logic here

So, because YOU think it’s bullshit ....then it is.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Be interesting to know if someone like GT was genuinely offended by IF comments, or indeed if any gay person was. Maybe it was just other people getting offended on their behalf?

He’s a public figure and so cant expect to say what he did without ramifications. It’s interesting however that his right of freedom of expression due to religious belief is somehow held in worse regard than someone else’s sexuality. But that’s the world in 2019/20.

Irrespective of what he says now he will still THINK what he thinks. It’s a view probably shared with a great number of people , just that they don’t voice it.

Is hate ‘thought’ a crime?

Are you a Christian?

What would be the definition?

[Yeboah]

Religion is bullshit.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Hey, look everyone! It’s another one of those cunts who’s too fucking stupid to understand the difference between the existence of god and the existence of religion.

Or alternatively, someone who thought they saw the word ‘god’ when it didn’t exist

Maybe they just can’t fucking read?

[Blackwhite]

Religion is bullshit.

Typical TSB logic here

So, because YOU think it’s bullshit ....then it is.

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Be interesting to know if someone like GT was genuinely offended by IF comments, or indeed if any gay person was. Maybe it was just other people getting offended on their behalf?

He’s a public figure and so cant expect to say what he did without ramifications. It’s interesting however that his right of freedom of expression due to religious belief is somehow held in worse regard than someone else’s sexuality. But that’s the world in 2019/20.

Irrespective of what he says now he will still THINK what he thinks. It’s a view probably shared with a great number of people , just that they don’t voice it.

Is hate ‘thought’ a crime?

Are you a Christian?

You'd think the thick chelsea cunt would at least check before shooting his cunt mouth off, but no...

[Mustafaster]

Are you a Christian?

What would be the definition?

Standard definition.

Do you think that Christ was the son of God, sent to cleanse us of our sins, died on the cross and was resurrected?

You don't have to believe every word in the Bible literally, but you do have to believe the above.

[Yeboah]

Are you a Christian?

What would be the definition?

Standard definition.

Do you think that Christ was the son of God, sent to cleanse us of our sins, died on the cross and was resurrected?

You don't have to believe every word in the Bible literally, but you do have to believe the above.

Ok, no then.

[Eddies Boots]

There are millions , maybe billions of people who believe in the existence of a higher power. Those people take comfort from that belief that allows them to live and exist.

Hey, look everyone! It’s another one of those cunts who’s too fucking stupid to understand the difference between the existence of god and the existence of religion.

Or alternatively, someone who thought they saw the word ‘god’ when it didn’t exist

Maybe they just can’t fucking read?

I think its more a case that we know "higher power" includes people's definition of God.
So we have reasoning skills as well as the ability to read.

[Eddies Boots]

I believe in freedom of speech.
But I also believe there can be consequences for saying some things. Some addressed by laws, some by corporations, and others by the mob.
He knows he is saying things that many consider to be hateful - and even unchristian, despite which passages of the bible he chooses to read or be lectured about.
He knew he was in a public position (I don't know if he started this on twitter) and that the twatterati would push it as much they could - so he knew there would be consequences.
He said what he said, so now he has to act to deal with the consequences.
I don't know if you saw the NBA turned on its own because they criticized China over Hong Kong, which could cost the NBA millions - but that is the world now.
If you decide to speak out for what you believe, then you can. Seems people tend to say what they feel and then gradually roll it back to mitigate the fall-out.

[Yeboah]

I think its more a case that we know "higher power" includes people's definition of God.
So we have reasoning skills as well as the ability to read.

Peoples......maybe.

Mine, how would you know.

[Eddies Boots]

ohhhhh - a scientologist......maybe

[Blackwhite]

Cuntist?

[dirty leeds]

[jackos]

This is the nub. 20 years ago he’d have been an ignorant berk and no one would have known. But at the very least any club signing him should say it’s a condition of his contract that he stays the fuck off social media.

20 years ago Isreal's values were fairly mainstream, 40 years ago they were entertaining and funny. I didn't meet an openly gay person until I was 18, and didn't know a black person until I left Aireborough. Thanks to social media a lot kids these days don't grew up in the white working class bubble I grew up in. Stifling ignorance isn't the solution, open debate is.

[jackos]

Are you a Christian?

I am. Nothing in Christs teachings was even slightly homophobic as far as I know?