Occasional statto attack

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eric olthwaite
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Occasional statto attack

Postby eric olthwaite » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:16 pm

As mentioned on various threads:

12 played, 30 points. 2.5ppg

90 point target for auto, 60 to get, 34 to play so 1.76ppg.

Will update as we go.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby eric olthwaite » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:05 am

14 played, 33 points. 2.36ppg

57 to get, 32 to play, 1.73ppg

One loss and it's still looking damn fine, really.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby Phil LUFC » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:03 am

eric olthwaite wrote:14 played, 33 points. 2.36ppg

57 to get, 32 to play, 1.73ppg

One loss and it's still looking damn fine, really.


57 / 32 = 1.78 ppg

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby Mustafaster » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:23 am

Interesting comparison with last season at this stage (Nicked off Waccoe).
Note where Leicester and Posh were.
Biggest difference for me is the gap between 1st and 6th. 11 points this year, 4 last.
This season:


Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Leeds United 14 5 2 0 14 4 5 1 1 11 4 +17 33
2 Charlton 14 5 2 0 12 5 3 3 1 11 7 +11 29
3 Colchester 14 6 0 1 13 5 2 4 1 12 6 +14 28
4 MK Dons 14 4 1 2 9 6 4 1 2 7 6 +4 26
5 Norwich City 14 4 2 1 18 12 2 2 3 8 8 +6 22
6 Bristol Rovers 14 3 1 3 7 9 4 0 3 13 13 -2 22
7 Huddersfield 14 5 2 0 20 3 1 1 5 8 13 +12 21
8 Millwall 14 4 3 0 13 3 1 3 3 6 7 +9 21
9 Oldham 14 2 3 2 7 9 3 2 2 6 5 -1 20
10 Hartlepool 14 2 2 3 6 7 3 2 2 9 7 +1 19


Last Season:


Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Scunthorpe 14 5 1 1 13 6 4 1 2 14 10 +11 29
2 Millwall 14 5 1 1 11 7 4 1 2 13 10 +7 29
3 Leeds United 14 5 1 1 16 8 3 1 3 9 9 +8 26
4 Oldham 14 5 2 0 19 5 2 2 3 9 12 +11 25
5 MK Dons 14 4 0 3 13 8 4 1 2 14 8 +11 25
6 Leicester City 13 3 2 1 8 4 4 2 1 14 7 +11 25
7 Southend 14 5 1 1 9 4 2 2 3 13 17 +1 24
8 Peterborough 14 4 2 1 17 8 2 3 2 9 9 +9 23
9 Hartlepool 14 4 2 1 20 13 3 0 4 6 8 +5 23
10 Tranmere 14 4 0 3 13 9 3 2 2 9 10 +3 23
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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby eric olthwaite » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:40 am

Mustafaster wrote:Note where Leicester and Posh were.


That is a stark reminder of why we need to avoid complacency. I won't believe anything 'til we cross the line, but I think if we're still in decent nick around the end of January, I'll start to take the whole thing seriously.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby eric olthwaite » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:44 am

Phil LUFC wrote:
eric olthwaite wrote:14 played, 33 points. 2.36ppg

57 to get, 32 to play, 1.73ppg

One loss and it's still looking damn fine, really.


57 / 32 = 1.78 ppg


Either you're a sparkling mental arithmetician, or you actually bothered to check my calcs, which would probably make you an even sadder cunt than me for posting it in the first place :lol: :wink:

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby gazurtoids » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:16 am

Mustafaster wrote:Last Season:


Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Scunthorpe 14 5 1 1 13 6 4 1 2 14 10 +11 29
2 Millwall 14 5 1 1 11 7 4 1 2 13 10 +7 29
3 Leeds United 14 5 1 1 16 8 3 1 3 9 9 +8 26
4 Oldham 14 5 2 0 19 5 2 2 3 9 12 +11 25
5 MK Dons 14 4 0 3 13 8 4 1 2 14 8 +11 25
6 Leicester City 13 3 2 1 8 4 4 2 1 14 7 +11 25
7 Southend 14 5 1 1 9 4 2 2 3 13 17 +1 24
8 Peterborough 14 4 2 1 17 8 2 3 2 9 9 +9 23
9 Hartlepool 14 4 2 1 20 13 3 0 4 6 8 +5 23
10 Tranmere 14 4 0 3 13 9 3 2 2 9 10 +3 23


With such a tight table, it's an unfair comparison when Leicester had a game in hand. If they won that then the eventual league winners would have actually been sat in 3rd at this point, which seems more sensible.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby sunshine whites » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 am

eric olthwaite wrote:
Mustafaster wrote:Note where Leicester and Posh were.


That is a stark reminder of why we need to avoid complacency. I won't believe anything 'til we cross the line, but I think if we're still in decent nick around the end of January, I'll start to take the whole thing seriously.



look where WE were!! dont fook it up Simon!

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby gazurtoids » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:27 am

sunshine whites wrote:look where WE were!! dont fook it up Simon!


Eh?

After 14 games: 3rd place, 3 points off 2nd
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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby sunshine whites » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:38 am

Auto promotion is ours to throw away - it was achievable last year and those tables show Macca fooked it up.
Simon did a fantastic job to turn it around but we still fooked it up in the play offs, did not even get to the final, done by Millwall last season, and again we got a harsh warning last Saturday. Every time I hear our muppets singing to Carlisle "2-0 and you fooked it up" it chokes me to think yep they did but we gotta get out this place!

Grayson dont fook it up this season, Bates just Fook off!! Auto promo the only way

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby Phil LUFC » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:26 pm

eric olthwaite wrote:Either you're a sparkling mental arithmetician, or you actually bothered to check my calcs, which would probably make you an even sadder cunt than me for posting it in the first place :lol: :wink:


:mrgreen: The givaway which made me check was that our PPG so far had dropped, the target was the same but the PPG required had also dropped. Something wasn't right, this is my version of the punctuation fetish as I have a maths/science based education.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby the flying pig » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:40 pm

with 3-4 weeks to go at the end of last season i actually thought that peterboro were going to overhaul leicester, they were really racking up results... and they were, what, 6 pts off the lead this time last year... even though the gap is much bigger i certainly do believe [admittedly based mostly on our recent game against them] that norwich could make a successful charge into an automatic spot.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby gazurtoids » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:54 pm

sunshine whites wrote:Auto promotion is ours to throw away - it was achievable last year and those tables show Macca fooked it up.


No, those tables don't support that at all. Those tables show that, as far as LUFC's league position was concerned, not much changed between game 14 and game 46. Of course, we well know that plenty did and that two isolated league tables are a scant basis on which to base to any kind of analysis, much less some pie-in-the-sky extrapolative analogy to this season. The best you can say is that, as far as the top ten are concerned, the league table after 14 games does not necessarily correlate that well to the final table.

In fact, the position of note is not ours, as you pointed at, but Scunthorpe's. Top of the league after 14 games and then 6th by the season end.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby sunshine whites » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:56 pm

Most of the top 10 clubs can still go on a run in this league - surprising 2 weeks ago we had reason to be concerned at going to Bristol, who'd some early season form, now look, 4 defeats & off the pace?

Norwich, yep they are dangerous, & I don't right off Southampton who presently are far enough behind us with points but they have quietly getting to grips with the league, & on merit are top 6 side who we still have to face to get 6 of our points.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby thechubbyone » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:56 pm

the flying pig wrote:with 3-4 weeks to go at the end of last season i actually thought that peterboro were going to overhaul leicester, they were really racking up results... and they were, what, 6 pts off the lead this time last year... even though the gap is much bigger i certainly do believe [admittedly based mostly on our recent game against them] that norwich could make a successful charge into an automatic spot.

I'd go along with that. They looked far better than Charlton at Elland Road and since Lambert has come in they've had some great results.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby gazurtoids » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:57 pm

the flying pig wrote:with 3-4 weeks to go at the end of last season i actually thought that peterboro were going to overhaul leicester, they were really racking up results... and they were, what, 6 pts off the lead this time last year... even though the gap is much bigger i certainly do believe [admittedly based mostly on our recent game against them] that norwich could make a successful charge into an automatic spot.


I thought we were going to overhaul Leicester (but not Peterborough). :oops:
I am a hopeless optimist, to be fair.

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby the flying pig » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:18 pm

i guess the other thing about peterboro last season is that it shows you shouldn't be too narrow in looking at the established '[relatively] big names' like us, charlton, and norwich [leicester last year], those teams went down from the championship because they were the poorest sides in it.

southampton are surely too far down to catch us but i did notice them buying a £1m striker over the summer - http://www.blogsaintsfc.co.uk/?p=293 - there aren't [m]any other clubs in the division who can say the same, you'd have to think that they'll be a big force next year at the very latest if they are spending that kind of money on other positions...

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby Shorn Derry » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:29 pm

sunshine whites wrote:Most of the top 10 clubs can still go on a run in this league - surprising 2 weeks ago we had reason to be concerned at going to Bristol, who'd some early season form, now look, 4 defeats & off the pace?

Norwich, yep they are dangerous, & I don't right off Southampton who presently are far enough behind us with points but they have quietly getting to grips with the league, & on merit are top 6 side who we still have to face to get 6 of our points.

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Spotted at Southampton who, despite starting the season on minus 10, are now up to 11 - seven more than Portsmouth. :mrgreen:


One thing I still don't understand about Soton, they got their -10 for going into Receivership, or whatever the technical term is, last season, applied retrospectively as they were relegated without deducting those points. Have they successfully come out with an agreement with all their creditors, including HMRC, or are they still in danger of getting -15 - as we and others have done? What happens if they gain sufficient points, starting from -10, this season to get in the play offs or promoted and still aren't out of receivership with a satisfactory agreement with HMRC by the end of the season?

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby sunshine whites » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:42 pm

Hence my concern Dont fook it up - playoffs is incomprehensible. No Southampton should not catch us but I won't be surprised to see them in the playoffs, Unlike us after over hauling the points deduction they probably won't fook it up.!

Yep Southampton stump £1 million on striker as it seems a prudent investment if they can get back up? and looking at us any one can see this is tough league to get out, unlike any other business a poor trading season in this game very quickly sets you back years!

Bates interference gives us side shows such as the potential of Beckfuckingoff in January sales..Apparantly Beckfords increase wage demands are in the region of £5k increase a week, so £260 year? Even if the numbers are of what we he cost to keep £1/2 million - getting OT here

please Simon go get another recognised wing back- We are stacked out with 7 strikers on the books but only 1 fkn left back, on the bench ?

Stats show good warning - dont fook it up Grayson but good luck in managing Bates?

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Re: Occasional statto attack

Postby Phil LUFC » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:17 pm

Shorn Derry wrote:
sunshine whites wrote:Most of the top 10 clubs can still go on a run in this league - surprising 2 weeks ago we had reason to be concerned at going to Bristol, who'd some early season form, now look, 4 defeats & off the pace?

Norwich, yep they are dangerous, & I don't right off Southampton who presently are far enough behind us with points but they have quietly getting to grips with the league, & on merit are top 6 side who we still have to face to get 6 of our points.

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"We've Got More Points Than Pompey!"
Spotted at Southampton who, despite starting the season on minus 10, are now up to 11 - seven more than Portsmouth. :mrgreen:


One thing I still don't understand about Soton, they got their -10 for going into Receivership, or whatever the technical term is, last season, applied retrospectively as they were relegated without deducting those points. Have they successfully come out with an agreement with all their creditors, including HMRC, or are they still in danger of getting -15 - as we and others have done? What happens if they gain sufficient points, starting from -10, this season to get in the play offs or promoted and still aren't out of receivership with a satisfactory agreement with HMRC by the end of the season?

Confused, I am!! :?


Without having taken much notice of the details, I was under the impression that they ended up coming out of admin with the new owner paying all their debts in full and therefore getting their share back the convensional way. As a result, there won't be any further deductions.

To support this theory, I'm looking at the lack of fuss about them short changing joe public after splashing 1m on lambert. Wikipedia just says they were sold on 8th July.


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