eric olthwaite wrote:MightyWhite wrote:Not overly chuffed with this, if I’m honest.dirty leeds wrote:Not overly surprised, either.
I change my mind on all this shit on a daily basis TBH.
On the one hand I'm Team Tommy: January transfers are shit value; getting a player to integrate quickly is challenging unless they're already at the very highest level; there's really not much chance of us getting relegated so let's not bother unless there's an explicitly clear long term benefit.
One the other I think there's not a lot of harm in spunking say £15m on two lower league players (UK or EU) as squad padding to cover ongoing crises and on the off chance that one of them turns out genuinely good.
I think I'd rather that than the current endless pursuit of one player who might be a bit of another Dan James - a fat wedge of cash, useful to some extent, but possibly not demonstrably ideal value for money.
Trumper wrote:Have to throw the usual January caution out the window. We have a small squad and the key factor we are going through a pandemic where multiple players can easily miss games. Spend the money. Going to cost more if we’re relegated anyway
dirty leeds wrote:If we can stay up with the players we have now, I have come round to the position that we should not buy anyone this window.
Resetting in the summer is preferable.
But can we stay up?
I think we can, certainly with our injured players back: we are better than too many teams down there to go down.
Holding our nerve may not be pleasant.
eric olthwaite wrote:I think we're in the realm of 'luck' now, to be honest. Or rather avoidance of additional bad luck.
- If we don't have major new injuries
- If injured players come back to current programmes
- If we don't lose say 5 points to shitty / questionable refereeing and VAR
We'll be alright.
eric olthwaite wrote:Trumper wrote:Have to throw the usual January caution out the window. We have a small squad and the key factor we are going through a pandemic where multiple players can easily miss games. Spend the money. Going to cost more if we’re relegated anyway
This is way too simplistic for me.
1. 'Spend the money'. How much money? How much are you willing to spend if it detracts from future spending in the summer? By how much are you prepared to overspend on a player if the selling club doesn't want to let go?
2. How many players?
3. What happens if the players we want aren't available - like our Bren? Do we spend money on shitter players instead?
4. What do we do in the summer if we maxed out FFP and end up with a shedload of middling journeyman desperation buys we can't shift?
It's not a straightforward process at all.
dirty leeds wrote:What's this, by the way?
eric olthwaite wrote:It's not a straightforward process at all.
eric olthwaite wrote:...I believe it's what you call 'a punt'. Here's his incredible showreel.
jackos wrote:eric olthwaite wrote:It's not a straightforward process at all.
Agree with this, my instinct tells me we could be in serious trouble if ex. Phillips has a setback with his recovery, but then I remember that Koch has done okay, is improving by the game, and probably won't make the 11 once Kalvin is fit. If you'd asked me in October I'd have said we needed an attacking midfielder pronto, today I still think we need a #10, but I'd probably say that cover for Bamford is more urgent, especially if Bielsa thinks Tyler is a better bet than Joffy.
Complicated as you say ...
Trumper wrote:Get some loans in. Too late now by the looks of it, should have planned earlier.
FredFlintstone wrote:Trumper wrote:Get some loans in. Too late now by the looks of it, should have planned earlier.
Certainly makes us look a step or two behind the rest. Villa bring in Coutinho then Palace get Van Der Beek and we're expending all our energy on wondering if someone nobodys heard of might or might not arrive in the summer...
I get that there's reasons why Coutinho and Van Der Beek made the moves that they did but as loans go it does show what's out there if you're prepared to take a chance.
Bnimble wrote:I’m firmly in the camp of going with what we have. Don’t want to polish up some loanee just to be handed back at some point. We’re in the top league and shouldn’t be going there anymore. Loans also hinder game time for our youngsters. Eight teenagers have made their debuts for us this season a PL record. We have enough with injured players returning to see us alright to the seasons end. Incomings can wait until Summer.
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