Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

[Blackwhite]

Definite lack of consent vibes being subjected to this scum talk

[MightyWhite]

4.5 more years on Struijk

[Chieftain626]

Great news imo

[Tommy]

Whispers going around that Drameh, Gelhardt, Forshaw and Klich all on their out in January one way or another.

We're also being linked with Pedro (Flamengo) and Lukić (Torino).

[Blackwhite]

Whispers going around that Drameh, Gelhardt, Forshaw and Klich all on their out in January one way or another.

We're also being linked with Pedro (Flamengo) and Lukić (Torino).

Klich definitely, as he's never seen eye to eye with Jesse Jeggings who seems to really fucking dislike playing him for some reason.

[Rob]

Gelhardt must only be a loan surely. If so, and with us being able to recall him if necessary, some regular game time would seem to benefit all.

Should these four move on, some quality midfield additions (plus the obligatory left back and striker) are musts.

[FredFlintstone]

Shame about Joffy if it's true. I guess Little Willy has pushed him down the pecking order.

[Tommy]

Joffy would definitely be a loan, I presume the others will be too unless someone bites.

[Quiffy]

stories on newsnow said they'd withdrawn a new contract offer for cody drameh which would be a big shame imo as i reckon he has the raw ingredients to be the best of our 3 right backs. this will be one that comes back to bite us in a couple of years.

and joffy's surely a loan only.

[jackos]

Klich definitely, as he's never seen eye to eye with Jesse Jeggings who seems to really fucking dislike playing him for some reason.

Would be a very Leeds thing to do if we got rid of Klich in Jan, and then sacked Marsch in Feb. We need möre depth, not less, but neither he nor Jack seem to be a good fit for Marsch

[jackos]

stories on newsnow said they'd withdrawn a new contract offer for cody drameh which would be a big shame imo as i reckon he has the raw ingredients to be the best of our 3 right backs. this will be one that comes back to bite us in a couple of years.

and joffy's surely a loan only.

Wouldn't surprise me if he rejected the offer before having it withdrawn. He's going nowhere in our squad. But watch him join the barcoders u21's as soon as he leaves us, unless he moves abroad

[Proud to be Leeds]

Pretty sure I read Dortmund, amongst others, are sniffing around Drameh.

[the flying pig]

i suppose i probably wouldn't be too shocked to see geldhardt get a transfer [not loan] somewhere. jesse obviously didn't rate him that highly anyway, and the signing of little willy is terrible for him.

[welshwhite]

I've no problem with either of the four above leaving.
Klich and Forshaw have been good for us but are both now stealing a wage.

Marshy has turned Kristensen into a good Right Back and he's improving.
Ayling has only just turned 31 and he's always a capable stand-in.

In his short time here Marshy has shown he's capable of improving players (Kristensen, Pascal, and Rodrigo).

If he thinks it's time to move those four on then I'll trust the process.
Neither of the 4 would be starters after the restart - so what's the point in them being here?

As for the Drameh love-in, he's third choice for a reason. [Possibly a Billy-big- bollocks attitude]. Seems to me he's always wanted to leave the club, even when Bielsa was here.

[Terre Harte II]

I’m all for Klich staying … but as a squad player.

The question is whether Klich accepts that? I don’t think he does and I think that’s the genesis of his “troubles” with Marsch.

[jackos]

I’m all for Klich staying … but as a squad player.

The question is whether Klich accepts that? I don’t think he does and I think that’s the genesis of his “troubles” with Marsch.

Klich was on his way out in the summer but Marsch convinced him to stay after the Wolves game. If I remember correctly he said Klich would get enough time to stake a claim for the WC. Question is what happened after Marsch convinced him to stay, if you think all that is on Klich then I think you might have forgotten what he did to help get us promoted. I suspect its a mix of the two, Klich feels promises haven't been kept, Marsch think Klich has been a bit shit when he's been given the opportunity.

[Bobbycollins]

I’m all for Klich staying … but as a squad player.

The question is whether Klich accepts that? I don’t think he does and I think that’s the genesis of his “troubles” with Marsch.

Klich was on his way out in the summer but Marsch convinced him to stay after the Wolves game. If I remember correctly he said Klich would get enough time to stake a claim for the WC. Question is what happened after Marsch convinced him to stay, if you think all that is on Klich then I think you might have forgotten what he did to help get us promoted. I suspect its a mix of the two, Klich feels promises haven't been kept, Marsch think Klich has been a bit shit when he's been given the opportunity.

Much as I haven't warmed to Marsch, I don't think that would be the case, as in every game in which i've seen Klich come on as sub, he's improved our side. It's possibly more a case that Marsch is more inclined to play the guys that he's brought to the club, which leaves Klich, Joffy, Bill and Drameh on the sidelines.

[Terre Harte II]

I’m all for Klich staying … but as a squad player.

The question is whether Klich accepts that? I don’t think he does and I think that’s the genesis of his “troubles” with Marsch.

Klich was on his way out in the summer but Marsch convinced him to stay after the Wolves game. If I remember correctly he said Klich would get enough time to stake a claim for the WC. Question is what happened after Marsch convinced him to stay, if you think all that is on Klich then I think you might have forgotten what he did to help get us promoted. I suspect its a mix of the two, Klich feels promises haven't been kept, Marsch think Klich has been a bit shit when he's been given the opportunity.

Digging up the reporting, Klich wasn't promised a large role, only that he would play. He has played 11 of our 14 League matches for 188 minutes. The hope was that he would get enough time to earn a World Cup spot. He didn't make it, though apparently he was close, but the Polish coach preferred younger players.

I don't blame Klich or Marsch. Klich still thinks he has something to offer. Fair enough. The sands of time are suggesting he probably doesn't, at least at this level. Marsch can't just pick who plays on emotion or even some promise. You are what you are on the pitch and that's all that should matter.

I think Klich is useful in the role he's in now, but I don't want him playing the majority of minutes. His style doesn't suit what we do. He's good as a change-of-pace.

And no one is forgetting, least of all, me, what Klich meant to our promotion (and the following season), but time marches on. I love Ayling to death too, but I don't think he should be starting either.

[dirty leeds]

Digging up the reporting, Klich wasn't promised a large role, only that he would play. He has played 11 of our 14 League matches for 188 minutes. The hope was that he would get enough time to earn a World Cup spot. He didn't make it, though apparently he was close, but the Polish coach preferred younger players.

I don't blame Klich or Marsch. Klich still thinks he has something to offer. Fair enough. The sands of time are suggesting he probably doesn't, at least at this level. Marsch can't just pick who plays on emotion or even some promise. You are what you are on the pitch and that's all that should matter.

I think Klich is useful in the role he's in now, but I don't want him playing the majority of minutes. His style doesn't suit what we do. He's good as a change-of-pace.

And no one is forgetting, least of all, me, what Klich meant to our promotion (and the following season), but time marches on. I love Ayling to death too, but I don't think he should be starting either.

Good post.

[Ponte]

I’m all for Klich staying … but as a squad player.

The question is whether Klich accepts that? I don’t think he does and I think that’s the genesis of his “troubles” with Marsch.

Klich was on his way out in the summer but Marsch convinced him to stay after the Wolves game. If I remember correctly he said Klich would get enough time to stake a claim for the WC. Question is what happened after Marsch convinced him to stay, if you think all that is on Klich then I think you might have forgotten what he did to help get us promoted. I suspect its a mix of the two, Klich feels promises haven't been kept, Marsch think Klich has been a bit shit when he's been given the opportunity.

Digging up the reporting, Klich wasn't promised a large role, only that he would play. He has played 11 of our 14 League matches for 188 minutes. The hope was that he would get enough time to earn a World Cup spot. He didn't make it, though apparently he was close, but the Polish coach preferred younger players.

I don't blame Klich or Marsch. Klich still thinks he has something to offer. Fair enough. The sands of time are suggesting he probably doesn't, at least at this level. Marsch can't just pick who plays on emotion or even some promise. You are what you are on the pitch and that's all that should matter.

I think Klich is useful in the role he's in now, but I don't want him playing the majority of minutes. His style doesn't suit what we do. He's good as a change-of-pace.

And no one is forgetting, least of all, me, what Klich meant to our promotion (and the following season), but time marches on. I love Ayling to death too, but I don't think he should be starting either.

Can’t argue with any of that.