Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby jackos » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:39 pm

barry white wrote:THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GAMBLE ON HOBBLING THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEASON AS WE ARE


They seem to suffer from the same delusions we fans do, two wins and everything is hunky dory. Unfortunately we don't have any matches before the window closes to prove them wrong. Very risky even if it'll encourage the kids.

If we're not buying anyone in January they could ar least ship Roberts out on loan so Bielsa isn't tempted to play him again.
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby Mustafaster » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:44 pm

jackos wrote:
barry white wrote:THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GAMBLE ON HOBBLING THROUGH THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEASON AS WE ARE


They seem to suffer from the same delusions we fans do, two wins and everything is hunky dory. Unfortunately we don't have any matches before the window closes to prove them wrong. Very risky even if it'll encourage the kids.

If we're not buying anyone in January they could ar least ship Roberts out on loan so Bielsa isn't tempted to play him again.

You know that old trope about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result ...
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby AndyPaul » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:32 pm

jackos wrote:If we're not buying anyone in January they could ar least ship Roberts out on loan so Bielsa isn't tempted to play him again.


Could someone hold Roberts at gun point and make him call Bielsa and make him say he wants a loan move to Cardiff? Then it's problem solved.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby welshwhite » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:38 pm

Thank you Angus, it's all so clear to me now.

We don't need to buy anyone because we already have three players here that can't get a start in the team when everyone is fit.

The club spin entertains me far more than it orta.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby welshwhite » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:45 am

Graham Smyth
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Marcelo Bielsa has doubts over Patrick Bamford's involvement at Villa, given the time he's spent out, but with Gelhardt, Rodrigo and Roberts back he's not asking for a new striker.
Still currently Brenden Aaronson or nothing in the next week.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby Trumper » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:10 am

welshwhite wrote:Graham Smyth
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Marcelo Bielsa has doubts over Patrick Bamford's involvement at Villa, given the time he's spent out, but with Gelhardt, Rodrigo and Roberts back he's not asking for a new striker.
Still currently Brenden Aaronson or nothing in the next week.

It’s 2 weeks away! Sounds like click bait

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby welshwhite » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:36 am

Trumper wrote:
welshwhite wrote:Graham Smyth
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Marcelo Bielsa has doubts over Patrick Bamford's involvement at Villa, given the time he's spent out, but with Gelhardt, Rodrigo and Roberts back he's not asking for a new striker.
Still currently Brenden Aaronson or nothing in the next week.

It’s 2 weeks away! Sounds like click bait


It probably is. I just found it interesting that The Newspaper that's close to the club are not reporting the Aaronson deal is now dead, he's also not saying
that Bamford is fucked for the whole season (As is rumoured).

It's just a little hope and cheer for me this merry morning :thumbl:

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby eric olthwaite » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:48 am

I just have visions of Pat lying there on the physio’s couch going, ‘Well, it’s just a bit hurty’
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby jackos » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:35 pm

Last few days/week its dawned on me that we're not going to sign anyone. I'm actually quite pissed off about it. Don't quiet understand why we'd take the risk with such a small squad.
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby MightyWhite » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:50 pm

jackos wrote:Last few days/week its dawned on me that we're not going to sign anyone. I'm actually quiet pissed off about it. Don't quiet understand why we'd take the risk with such a small squad.


Best to be quite about it though :wink:
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby welshwhite » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:50 pm

jackos wrote:Last few days/week its dawned on me that we're not going to sign anyone. I'm actually quiet pissed off about it. Don't quiet understand why we'd take the risk with such a small squad.


With Norwich and Newcastle now finding a second wind it is indeed a realistic risk.

There are a few more people now starting to smell the coffee, so, every cloud...

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby Quiffy » Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:51 pm

jackos wrote:Last few days/week its dawned on me that we're not going to sign anyone. I'm actually quiet pissed off about it. Don't quiet understand why we'd take the risk with such a small squad.

the message sent by drameh and summerville (possibly off to hamburg permanently) about lack of action in spite of the injuries seems to have rung some alarm bells. i'm guessing both had it in their heads that they were next in line for game time if we had the amount of injuries we've had. it seems the signing of dan james may have left summerville in the cold. you've got to remember both drameh and summerville came from decent clubs to us for a reason, it makes me wonder what they were told when they got here and after impressing in the u23's for a season.

maybe they are worried bate'll get the hump next if we buy a midfielder.

don't get me wrong, i think we need a new midfielder (and keeper) urgently. i'm all for giving the kids a chance but the squad's been stretched so much you can see right though it.
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby rss1969 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:10 pm

Poor from the club if Summerville & Drameh are allowed to leave permanently. Hopefully both will perform well and come back in the summer looking for a place in the team.

We have seen what it has done to the U23's since they stopped playing regularly (yes it is another level but they are as good as it gets at that level)

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby throbbinrobin » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:25 pm

Don’t worry chaps, knowing us we’ll probably do a last minute loan to buy deal for the next JKA !
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby AndyPaul » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:45 am

From the bits I've seen of Drameh I reckon he's going to be a good player and could hold his own in the PL. Summerville looks too small and lightweight to do anything in the top leagues. He's doesn’t seem to have any strength in him.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby the flying pig » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:52 am

I can see why Drameh might not be happy, in both 18/19 and 19/20 he got a lot of senior gametime in holland, albeit on loan/in the lower divisions, since coming here he's had next to nothing. i agree that he's not looked great yet, and a 20 year old winger would usually be showing at least flashes of the player he'd become. he's very small as already mentioned & it's not obvious that he's going to be FAPL standard in any of the things you look for in a winger, e.g. beating a player, slinging in a good cross, hitting a good shot, where an ok player can do maybe one of the above well, a good player maybe two, and a top-notch one all three.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby welshwhite » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:58 am

AndyPaul wrote: Summerville looks too small and lightweight to do anything in the top leagues. He's doesn’t seem to have any strength in him.


Being too small is what held Strachan, Bremner and before them Bobby Collins back from making it in the game.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby dirty leeds » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:59 am

the flying pig wrote:I can see why Drameh might not be happy, in both 18/19 and 19/20 he got a lot of senior gametime in holland, albeit on loan/in the lower divisions, since coming here he's had next to nothing. i agree that he's not looked great yet, and a 20 year old winger would usually be showing at least flashes of the player he'd become. he's very small as already mentioned & it's not obvious that he's going to be FAPL standard in any of the things you look for in a winger, e.g. beating a player, slinging in a good cross, hitting a good shot, where an ok player can do maybe one of the above well, a good player maybe two, and a top-notch one all three.


You mean Summerville, I take it?
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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby the flying pig » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:19 am

dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:I can see why Drameh might not be happy, in both 18/19 and 19/20 he got a lot of senior gametime in holland, albeit on loan/in the lower divisions, since coming here he's had next to nothing. i agree that he's not looked great yet, and a 20 year old winger would usually be showing at least flashes of the player he'd become. he's very small as already mentioned & it's not obvious that he's going to be FAPL standard in any of the things you look for in a winger, e.g. beating a player, slinging in a good cross, hitting a good shot, where an ok player can do maybe one of the above well, a good player maybe two, and a top-notch one all three.


You mean Summerville, I take it?


eggsackly. drameh i'm a lot less sure about it - i don't think he's going to be a great all-round footballer but i suppose i do tend to see defence as a position you can 'learn' more/where being a late developer is more likely. and the bigger difference with drameh [vs jimmy] imo is that he came here with zero first team football under his belt, moving into the prem he surely had to realise that he'd not be getting much here in the short term.

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Re: Trialists, Transfers & Speculation

Postby Bobbycollins » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:43 am

I'm a bit surprised about the talk of Summerville going out on loan. When he first joined the U23s, he looked a bit tentative for a while until he suddenly improved and was going past defenders with ease and demanding that he took penalties etc. In a similar manner, his first few sub appareances for the first team were nothing special as he didn't appear to have sufficient confidence but in his last appareance he looked far more ready to drive into the penalty area and challenge defenders to tackle him. Inevitably he was immediately injured and that is still the case. If it again takes him a few months in new surroundings before he makes an impact, a loan makes little sense for the player and assuming we lose Rapha in the summer, there must be a good chance at Leeds for a speedy, tricky winger next season.


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