2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby the flying pig » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:13 pm

dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:...
let's agree to disagree. but it was certainly a colossal seller.


So was Russ Abbot.


I tell you what, russ abbot was actually a really good comic/musical/general actor - i once saw him play Fagin in a decent version of Oliver!, the guy was superb, nailed the role. I on balance like him.

i think he only started to come unstuck when he moved out of his own comfort zone/when his ego started writing cheques that his skillset couldn't cash, e.g.: (a) writing his own comedy, by superprimetime standards his mid 80s stuff was execrable really; and (b) releasing pre-recorded music, the guy's musical chops were nowhere near up to writing or performing material that'd stand alone outside of a comedy performance.

Also, fair to say that the 'loaf shifted rather more units than Russ ever did.

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby jackos » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:14 pm

dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
let's agree to disagree. but it was certainly a colossal seller.


So was Russ Abbot.


The reason I don't frequent the music thread is that my taste in music is much too simple for most ballers. I like music that makes me feel happy, Bat Out of Hell is like a living breathing thing. It makes me feel alive, and works when I'm happy and sad. Did the sane for my Mum back in '77 when she was a 32 year old widow, with five young kids, living on a council estate. Its happy music.

Russ Abbot is a Cess fan and thus only understands misery.
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:19 pm

jackos wrote:
dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
let's agree to disagree. but it was certainly a colossal seller.


So was Russ Abbot.


The reason I don't frequent the music thread is that my taste in music is much too simple for most ballers. I like music that makes me feel happy, Bat Out of Hell is like a living breathing thing. It makes me feel alive, and works when I'm happy and sad. Did the sane for my Mum back in '77 when she was a 32 year old widow, with five young kids, living on a council estate. Its happy music.

Russ Abbot is a Cess fan and thus only understands misery.


:lol:
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby the flying pig » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:23 pm

jackos wrote:
dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
let's agree to disagree. but it was certainly a colossal seller.


So was Russ Abbot.


The reason I don't frequent the music thread is that my taste in music is much too simple for most ballers. I like music that makes me feel happy, Bat Out of Hell is like a living breathing thing. It makes me feel alive, and works when I'm happy and sad. Did the sane for my Mum back in '77 when she was a 32 year old widow, with five young kids, living on a council estate. Its happy music...


ha, yeah, i mean, what you're saying resonates with me a little, a couple of years later than that my mother similarly overplayed her copy of Queen's greatest hits album, the one with the black sleeve that's mostly 70s stuff. i definitely have a soft spot for it on similar grounds. but i still don't like meatloaf. like queen it's overblown and silly but in such an american, and therefore unironic, way?

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby MightyWhite » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:30 pm

Can’t claim to be a particular fan, to the extent I’m into all his deep cuts and that, but I’ll certainly have a re-listen, and enjoy, the hits tonight
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby rss1969 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Fuck off. My Mum played "Bat Out of Hell", and the Jim Steinman's"Bad for Good" none stop for two years. Bat out of Hell is a classic, and as far as I know its still one of the top 10 best selling albums of all time.[/quote]

let's agree to disagree. but it was certainly a colossal seller.[/quote]

So was Russ Abbot.[/quote]

And 'what an atmosphere' was a right tune tbf

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:52 pm

rss1969 wrote:
And 'what an atmosphere' was a right tune tbf


:lol:
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:26 pm

So Meatloaf had Covid. Does this mean we now know the answer to the query about the song, 'I'd Do Anything For Love [But I Won't Do That]'?
Was it getting vaccinated?
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby the flying pig » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:31 pm

dirty leeds wrote:So Meatloaf had Covid. Does this mean we now know the answer to the query about the song, 'I'd Do Anything For Love [But I Won't Do That]'?
Was it getting vaccinated?


ha, could be. but the real answer's vv boring, he just meant he'd never forget his ladyfriend etc, e.g.

"But I'll never forget the way you feel right now,
Oh no, no way.
And I would do anything for love,
But I won't do that
No I won't do that"

i agree that it's hugely ambigous, rank bad writing. my 8 yr old daughter's currently home schooling/convalescing with covid, yesterday she had an exercise on avoiding repeated noun phrases, & using pronouns instead - but if you take things too far, use just the pronoun too often, it becomes easy to forget what they're referring to. i almost wonder whether the exercise jinxed poor old 'Loaf.

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:47 pm

the flying pig wrote:
dirty leeds wrote:So Meatloaf had Covid. Does this mean we now know the answer to the query about the song, 'I'd Do Anything For Love [But I Won't Do That]'?
Was it getting vaccinated?


ha, could be. but the real answer's vv boring, he just meant he'd never forget his ladyfriend etc, e.g.

"But I'll never forget the way you feel right now,
Oh no, no way.
And I would do anything for love,
But I won't do that
No I won't do that"

i agree that it's hugely ambigous, rank bad writing. my 8 yr old daughter's currently home schooling/convalescing with covid, yesterday she had an exercise on avoiding repeated noun phrases, & using pronouns instead - but if you take things too far, use just the pronoun too often, it becomes easy to forget what they're referring to. i almost wonder whether the exercise jinxed poor old 'Loaf.


Just had this pointed out to me by son as we walked the dog. Yeah, I know the song tells you the answer, but at the time of release it was a thing that people speculated about - asking each other what they wouldn't do for love on radio phone-ins etc etc. I'd say it helped rather than hindered.
He was getting asked about it in interviews years later.
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby Blackwhite » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:58 pm

I thought it was about being pegged, he looked the sort.
You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later.

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby the flying pig » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm

Blackwhite wrote:I thought it was about being pegged, he looked the sort.


well, i mean, the obvious thing to thjink think was some kind of 'backdoor man' thing, but i don't think it was nearly as obvious whose door, or what means of entry, he was referring to.

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:06 pm

Seems he was definitely anti-mask but not yet clear about his vaccination status.
I'd guess he was agin it, though.
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby the flying pig » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:15 pm

MightyWhite wrote:Can’t claim to be a particular fan, to the extent I’m into all his deep cuts and that, but I’ll certainly have a re-listen, and enjoy, the hits tonight


I just had it (BooH) on whilst making my tea.

sorry, but it is fucking shit. it's what 'Tommy' would have sounded like if Pete Townsend had sneaked in a cheeky lobotomy before writing it.

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby Terre Harte II » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:43 pm

the flying pig wrote:
MightyWhite wrote:Can’t claim to be a particular fan, to the extent I’m into all his deep cuts and that, but I’ll certainly have a re-listen, and enjoy, the hits tonight


I just had it (BooH) on whilst making my tea.

sorry, but it is fucking shit. it's what 'Tommy' would have sounded like if Pete Townsend had sneaked in a cheeky lobotomy before writing it.


I can’t stomach Jim Steinman, who is the songwriting muse behind Meatloaf.

Even on my best day, even if I try to accept his uber-bombast as enjoyable camp, I can’t get there. It’s too much and the lyrical gymnastics he imposes to get to the camp are just cringe-worthy.

The only Steinman song I can really enjoy, and it’s definitely on a camp level, is “Total Eclipse Of The Heart” by Bonnie Tyler, and I guarantee it’s because of the memories of the off-the-chain video that admirably out-bombasted Steinman and successfully crossed into that holy realm of so-bad-it’s-good.
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2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby Still Hates Gordon Watson » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:59 pm

dirty leeds wrote:
the flying pig wrote:
dirty leeds wrote:So Meatloaf had Covid. Does this mean we now know the answer to the query about the song, 'I'd Do Anything For Love [But I Won't Do That]'?
Was it getting vaccinated?


ha, could be. but the real answer's vv boring, he just meant he'd never forget his ladyfriend etc, e.g.

"But I'll never forget the way you feel right now,
Oh no, no way.
And I would do anything for love,
But I won't do that
No I won't do that"

i agree that it's hugely ambigous, rank bad writing. my 8 yr old daughter's currently home schooling/convalescing with covid, yesterday she had an exercise on avoiding repeated noun phrases, & using pronouns instead - but if you take things too far, use just the pronoun too often, it becomes easy to forget what they're referring to. i almost wonder whether the exercise jinxed poor old 'Loaf.


Just had this pointed out to me by son as we walked the dog. Yeah, I know the song tells you the answer, but at the time of release it was a thing that people speculated about - asking each other what they wouldn't do for love on radio phone-ins etc etc. I'd say it helped rather than hindered.
He was getting asked about it in interviews years later.

If you read the full lyrics, there are actually several things he won’t do for love, including this charming act of self-flagellation.

‘But I'll never forgive myself if we don't go all the way
Tonight
And I would do anything for love
Oh I would do anything for love
Oh I would do anything for love
But I won't do that’

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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:25 pm

Still Hates Gordon Watson wrote:If you read the full lyrics, there are actually several things he won’t do for love, including this charming act of self-flagellation.

‘But I'll never forgive myself if we don't go all the way
Tonight
And I would do anything for love
Oh I would do anything for love
Oh I would do anything for love
But I won't do that’



It's funny, 'cause until today I thought of Meaty as a nice chap, funny and talented in his area - someone to whom I had positive inclination.
After a day of being bombarded by the cunt's shite [imo] music and discovering he was an anti-vaxxer who died of Covid... well, it's put me off him a tad.
If only he hadn't died.
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:02 pm

And was he Trump?
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby dirty leeds » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 pm

Anyway, there's now this on the BBC site: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60082456
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Re: 2022 Death Pool Party: Rules and Chat Thread

Postby eric olthwaite » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:47 pm

Anyway, I’ve just found out that his real name was Marvin Lee Aday.

So call it Aday.
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